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- From: Wouter Vanden hove <wouter.vanden.hove AT telenet.be>
- To: "bruno AT indymedia.be" <bruno AT indymedia.be>, cc-be AT lists.ibiblio.org
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- Subject: Re: [Cc-be] p2p & film
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 02:24:14 +0200
bruno AT indymedia.be wrote:
hello list,
I'm working on an article about the effects of downloading films (be it 'legal' or 'illegal' copies) on the movie business, ticket sales, income of film makers. I would like to compare the view points and arguments of ABDF and the like (www.houdedief.be) with that of theatre owners, film makers, journalists, copyright/left scholars & activists.
some questions to ask: is there a problem, yes or no,I don't see any problem.
Movie-lovers can download some movies, but nearly all ISP have download-caps. Most people can only download 10GB/month. I believe the overall effect to be neglegible.
And what is the difference of creating a movie-collection with your computer, compated to creating one with your VCR of movies that have been broadcasted on TV?
why & what's
people's solutions if there is one?
what do figures say?
Figures coming from **independent** sources don't even find a problem in downloading music, let alone movies.
Take a look at:
The Effect of File Sharing on Record Sales An Empirical Analysis
http://www.unc.edu/~cigar/papers/FileSharing_March2004.pdf
what about the
role of the dvd sales?
DVDs are the future.
No sane individual is going to invest large amounts of money anymore
in creating a personal music-library based on CD's.
That is the real reason why the sales of CD's drop.
Buying CD's is quickly becoming the same as buying LP's.
I would like to ask you people if you have any suggestions for this article.
1) You should mention the case of Jon Johansen, who legally bought a DVD, and unsuccesfully tried to play it in his GNU/Linux-computer.
Then he wrote some software himself and some others,
And guess what? The movie-industry sued him.
Eventually, he won the case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Johansen
2) You should look at the history, and the things that were predicted in the past by the film/music-industry.
"the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone." -- Jack Valenti, President MPAA.
While nowadays rentals of videocassette account for roughly 60% of Hollywood's income.
For a brief overview of the BETAMAX-case, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._v._Universal_City_Studios
this is the case where the movie-industry tried to outlaw the video-recorder.
3) The recent controverse (and victory) surrounding the "Broadcast Flag"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_flag
http://www.eff.org/broadcastflag/
http://www.publicknowledge.org/issues/bfcase
are there people you think I should talk to? studies I should
look at? other interesting info? do you know about previous articles
about this?
have a look at the box-office records:
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/records/
Do you see any signs of a crisis in the movie-industry?
Here are some sources on the Copyright-debate :
http://www.opencursus.org/archief/copyright/
I'll recommend:
Free Culture - Larry Lessig.pdf
some organisations:
http://www.eff.org/
http://www.freeculture.org/
http://www.publicknowledge.org
Wouter Vanden Hove
opencursus.org
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[Cc-be] p2p & film,
bruno AT indymedia.be, 05/08/2005
- Re: [Cc-be] p2p & film, nicolas maleve, 05/09/2005
- Re: [Cc-be] p2p & film, BeMol!- Marcel Vander Mierde, 05/09/2005
- Re: [Cc-be] p2p & film, Wouter Vanden hove, 05/09/2005
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