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[Sindi Keesan <keesan AT iamjlamb.com>]

I use Kermit (with BL2) to upload files to a shell account (Redhat) which 
does not allow incoming ftp access.  The Redhat computer did not have 
Redhat but I was able to get it via outgoing ftp to another shell account.  
Since I have paid my $50 contribution to the Kermit project, I was also 
sent information immediately on request about how to 'bootstrap' G-Kermit 
to my Redhat shell account if I had no other way to get it there.  I put 
the C-Kermit executable, after renaming it kermit and making it 
executable, into my bin directory there (on the path) and can now use it 
for kermit file transfer.  The procedure for kermit file transfer over a 
telnet connection is identical to that for dial-up kermit connections.  


Another way to get kermit to your shell account, if you are allowed to 
send mails over 100K, is to mail it to yourself as an attachment.

For some reason I could not simply download it to my shell account via ftp 
to that account (part of the 'no incoming ftp', I guess).  

To do telnet kermit file transfer:

Telnet to your shell account.  Type kermit -ir.  Type Ctl-\, C (it might
be Ctl-/,C - you will see instructions onscreen as you telnet) to exit to
the Kermit prompt.  The default, if you forget the -i which means binary,
is to send in binary mode (which also lets you resume interrupted
transfers, I forget quite how).  Type send /path/filename.  Watch the file
transfer go by.  When it is done, type c to connect back to your shell
account.

To download files, just type kermit -is /path/filename  and you don't even 
have to exit to kermit, it just sends and receives for you.  If you cd to 
the correct directories at each end before sending, the files don't need 
path names before them.  


Kermit also has built-in ftp, in case you are allowed incoming ftp access.  
You can telnet on Terminal 1 and then go to terminal 2 (Alt-F2) and use 
ftp to upload your precomposed mail, exit that connection and go back to 
terminal 1 (Alt-F1) to use Pine while telnetted.  


I probably spend more time using Kermit (if you count the time I am online 
at my shell account) than any other single program I use and it was a 
well-spent contribution.  The tech support person is one of the two who 
wrote the book.   He answers on Sundays, within 30 minutes usually.  He 
told me how to write a script to automatically enter my login and password 
when direct dialing.  He told me how to modify .kermrc so it would not 
enter 'root' as my login when I telnetted.  He told me how to do file 
transfer using kermit between DOS and Linux computers.  He helped me when 
I had problems with terminal type.  When the precompiled kermit for SW71 
would not work for me because it required a library upgrade, he arranged 
for someone to install SW71 on their computer with the original libraries 
and compiled the latest Kermit on it for basiclinux 2.  (This was preceded 
by a long emailed debate between him and someone else, which I was sent 
copies of, about whether to encourage people to use the old libraries when 
they had security problems.  I have since upgraded them to 8.1).

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Ken Martwick wrote:

> I would like to use a dialup program under DOS, but I no longer have a
> dial-up shell account.  Therefore, my most likely option is a telnet-
> like program under Linux.  I would like to be able to compose my email
> offline and upload to "pine" on my shell adcount under Linux. It seems
> that kermit could accomplish this, but the chaotic state of its docu-
> mentation makes this hard to figure out.  A much simpler variant of the
> telnet program would be nice.
> Ken Martwick
> 
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Alejandro Lieber wrote:
> 
> > Ken:
> >
> > Try CONEX 7.1 for DOS. FREE. Less than 80 Kbytes.
> >
> > Excellent........
> >
> > I use it daily to connect with a 80286 to a LYNX browser in a shell
> > account.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 Feb 04 at 21:30, Ken Martwick wrote:
> >
> > > Date sent:      Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:30:13 -0800 (PST)
> > > From:           Ken Martwick <kenm AT efn.org>
> > > To:             LifeRaft <survpc AT tmonroe.com>
> > > Copies to:      baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject:        [BL] Communications program
> > > Send reply to:  baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> > > kermit is a quite functional program, but since the available printed 
> > > doc-
> > > umentation is very outdated and extortionately priced, I am looking for 
> > > an
> > > alternative.  Does anyone know of such a program? Ken Martwick
> > >
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> > Read net news (USENET) with Arachne: http://www.lieber.com.ar/nnews.zip
> > Sans Serif fonts for MS-DOS at: http://www.lieber.com.ar/novafont.zip
> > Configurable dialing menu for several DOS internet programs at:
> > http://www.lieber.com.ar/dial_ip.zip
> >
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