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  • From: "Rolf" <rolf.furuli AT sf-nett.no>
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] theories of Hebrew writing embedded in Greek NT autographs - then redaction - today proposed emendation
  • Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 22:23:30 +0200

Dear Steven,

Your posts show that you have a particular religious agenda, and that is
against the rules of b-hebrew.
So I see no reason why I should answer you.


Best regards,


Rolf Furuli
Stavern
Norway


Mandag 10. Juni 2013 17:32 CEST skrev Steven Avery <stevenavery AT verizon.net>:

> Hi,
>
> Putting aside the group posting history, the point that I am making
> to Rolf Furuli about scribal habits and textual transmission are simple.
>
> If your theory of a New Testament text with Hebrew words originally
> embedded does not reference clearly and astutely the following four issues:
>
> 1) Why a diverse variety of writers (allowing they were all Hebrew
> fluent and skilled) would all do the exact same highly unusual
> autographic Greek writing, of interrupting their Greek flow to change
> to a Hebrew script for one word here and there. Today we have no
> evidence at all that this was ever done. And various gentlemen only
> guess the places this happened by their particular
> doctrinal-Christological need (NWT) or, as here, they tentatively
> limit the question to happening to NT quotes of OT scripture. No
> matter what, you are placing the exact same unusual writing, never
> seen in autographic Greek, as changing the style of a variety NT
> authors, and nobody else.
>
> 2) Why every single case of this occurring in the autographs was
> never recognized in either the manuscript lines, in any Greek, Latin
> or even Syriac texts. And the conjectured phenomenon was never
> referenced even once by the ECW who talked about the texts. In other
> words, there is no trace.
>
> 3) Why every single one of these cases got redacted into our current
> text, ie. The phenomenon then vanished without a trace. Why did they
> not have a variety of redactions, such as transliterating YHVW or
> Jehovah and a wide divergence between kurios and qeos in many
> instances? Why the general textual consistency today? Surely such a
> cumbersome redaction back into the Greek and Latin texts would leave
> lots of variant signs in addition to historical notes.
>
> 4) Acknowledge that this is simply a master emendation theory, of no
> textual evidence. Under this theory, the proper NT text was totally
> hid for 1800 years, and is restored by conjectural emendation, all
> done against 1-2-3.
>
> If these issues are not addressed, then I think it is fair to say
> that your theory is of no merit. Granted, I do not think they were
> addressed by those who earlier floated similar theories, whether it
> be George Howard or David Trobisch, however that is no reason for not
> addressing them today.
>
> ==================
>
> Please note that I often find Rolf's writings, and even JW writings,
> of some interest. The acknowledgement of the name as Jehovah rather
> than yahweh or other modern attempts is extra-fine ( I wonder if Rolf
> has any specific critiques of the Nehemia Gordon material, beyond the
> light dismissal he wrote.) Their concerns about the development of
> the Trinity doctrine are interesting, even if I do not share their
> general Christology. Rolf has written interestingly on John 1:18, as
> I remember.
>
> However, I see some gaping holes in the New Testament
> emendation-redaction theory being propounded here.
>
> ==================
>
> Shalom,
> Steven Avery
> Bayside, NY.
>
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