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- From: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- To: wbparsons AT alum.mit.edu
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings
- Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 14:37:06 -0400 (EDT)
Will:
My apologies.
I now see your point. The source
I was looking at erroneously showed the first two letters in Akhenaten’s name
in Egyptian as being ax. But now that I
look at other sources, I see that in fact, the first two letters are Ax. The first letter is aleph/3, not ayin. So now that I understand your point and see
that it’s a very important point to make, let me correct my response to what
you wrote.
You wrote: “This
seems less reasonable if we consider the Egyptian form of this name, 3ḫ-n-ỉtn
(i.e., divided Akh-en-Aten, but note the different consonants).”
The one and only difference in consonants [pardon my
prior mistake] is that the first letter is Egyptian aleph, whereas in P R (H,
the first letter in the segment containing the last two letters is ayin, not
aleph.
Note, however, that when maat is written in Akkadian
cuneiform in the Amarna Letters, both the Egyptian ayin and the Egyptian aleph
are rendered by the Akkadian vowel U.
That is to say, ayin and aleph are not routinely distinguished in
Akkadian cuneiform, including when rendering Egyptian words or Egyptian names. mAat comes out in the Akkadian cuneiform of
the Amarna Letters as having UU in the middle.
As I noted in a prior post, it’s also the case that Akkadian cuneiform
heth can represent both aleph and ayin as well.
Will, you are right to point out those “different
consonants”: ayin vs. aleph. That’s an important point, and thank you for
making that point. But I see P R (H in
the Patriarchal narratives as coming from an Akkadian cuneiform original, where
ayin and aleph were not distinguished in the original writing.
Sorry that I did not see your point before, but it actually fits in with
my Akkadian cuneiform approach quite nicely.
Jim Stinehart
Evanston, Illinois
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
JimStinehart, 03/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
Will Parsons, 03/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, jimstinehart, 03/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
JimStinehart, 03/15/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
Will Parsons, 03/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
jimstinehart, 03/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, Will Parsons, 03/16/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, jimstinehart, 03/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
jimstinehart, 03/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
Will Parsons, 03/16/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
JimStinehart, 03/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, Antonio Garcia, 03/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, Will Parsons, 03/19/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, JimStinehart, 03/18/2013
- Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings, JimStinehart, 03/19/2013
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Re: [b-hebrew] P R (H/"Pharaoh"" Three Meanings,
Will Parsons, 03/16/2013
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