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  • From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
  • To: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Song of song 1:7
  • Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 05:51:03 -0800

Pere:

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com> wrote:
Karl,
 
as Nir said in another post, HWMYH in Is 22:2 is not a noun (it is a participle, feminine singular, acting as an adjective).

Here we have a word that is used once in surviving literature, and when we look at the context, it’s in a place where we expect to find a noun. We need to look at the context. Using the context as a guide, which indicates we should look for a noun in this place, I call it a noun.

On what basis do you call it a participle acting as an adjective?
 
The same, for instance, as PRYH in Ps 128:3 or HMYH in Pr 7:11.

In these two examples, the context indicates we should look for an adjective, unlike HWMYH above.
 
Coming back to our (+YH (Song 1:7), this is  --unfortunately for this discussion--   the only sample in the entire Tanakh of a Qal Participle, singular feminine, of a verb lamed-heh.

Is this a participle nominalizing an action (similar to English “the loving thing here …”) or a noun? This is where if we knew what it means, that would make it easier.
 
You are quite right that many nouns are found ending -YH.
Now, what refers to BYRNYH (as you write it), fortified place ----------> the right basic form is BYRNYT (2Ch 17:12), derived from or built on  BYRH, castle, palace (2Ch 29:1)

Do you have other examples of where the plural of a feminine noun ending in a -H has the plural form ending in -NYWT? Where are they found in Tanakh?
 
If finelly, after your study of the word in Song 1:7, you decide it is a noun....   I have nothing else to say thereon. 

I’m not sure it is, but I’m leaving that option open.

It’s in a form that could be a noun, in a context where it could be a noun, so we can’t rule it out, but is it a noun? Or a participle of an action?
  
Quite friendly,
 
Pere Porta


Karl W. Randolph.


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