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- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] YERU
- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:10:56 -0700
George:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:36 AM, George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Karl!
Genesis 31.51 and Job 38.6 show that ירה can be used as a verb indicating the construction of something, so the suggestion that the element -ירו is from ירה is not a far-fetched theory.
From the form, that is a distinct possibility. But is it original to the name? Genesis 14:18 indicates that it was added later, not the original name of the city.
But another question is how to make the definition of construction of something fit with the use of ירה where the action indicated by its other contexts is that of thrusting out as in pointing a finger in indicating, pointing out, pointing to, and thrusting out as in shooting a projectile?
In both contexts of Genesis 31:51 and Job 38:6, the understanding of pointing to, indicating fits.
In terms of the element שׁלם, it's also not far-fetched to propose that it was named after the deity Shalem. Many towns were originally named in honour of gods, as I'm sure you know. We hardly have any foundation documents, but it's easy to make plausible hypotheses in this case. Shalem was a well-known deity in the Levant, especially in the Bronze Age. He appears in Ugaritic texts. Do you have an alternative suggestion?
That is another question I have: do we have any indications of a god named Shalem from the early bronze age? Ugarit appears to be iron age, ca. ninth to seventh centuries BC, with its destruction shortly after the destruction of Jerusalem under Nebuchadnezzar, so its record comes from a millennium after Abraham when the city of Salem is first mentioned. Do we have earlier records of such a god? Indications are that Salem was later renamed to Jerusalem, so it appears that we are dealing with the same city.
There are several possibilities as to why Salem was named Salem, that it was named after a god is only one of several possibilities. We don’t have records as to why the city was name Salem. Therefore any speculation, including the speculation that it was named after a minor god, is more likely to be wrong than right.
Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] YERU,
Yodan, 09/25/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, George Athas, 09/25/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
George Athas, 09/25/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, George Athas, 09/27/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
K Randolph, 09/27/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
George Athas, 09/27/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, K Randolph, 09/27/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
George Athas, 09/27/2012
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JimStinehart, 09/26/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, Will Parsons, 09/26/2012
- [b-hebrew] Yeru, Uri Hurwitz, 09/26/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
JimStinehart, 09/27/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, George Athas, 09/28/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, Nir cohen - Prof. Mat., 09/28/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Yeru, JimStinehart, 09/27/2012
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[b-hebrew] YERU,
Uri Hurwitz, 09/27/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
K Randolph, 09/27/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] YERU, George Athas, 09/28/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] YERU,
K Randolph, 09/27/2012
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