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  • From: Uzi Silber <uzisilber AT gmail.com>
  • To: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org list" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>, George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Circle חוג
  • Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:58:26 -0400

that's pretty funny Yitzik.

uzi silber



On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
> Thank you for including me in this XUG.
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>
> On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:58 AM, George Athas wrote:
>
>> We're all human, Isaac. ;)
>>
>>
>> GEORGE ATHAS
>> Dean of Research,
>> Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
>> Sydney, Australia
>>
>>
>> From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
>> Date: Monday, 27 August 2012 10:30 PM
>> To: George Athas <george.athas AT moore.edu.au>
>> Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Circle חוג
>>
>> I am sorry, but I was not aware of the fact that the thread ended.
>>
>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:20 PM, George Athas wrote:
>>
>>> No more posts, please, Isaac.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> GEORGE ATHAS
>>> Dean of Research,
>>> Moore Theological College (Sydney, Australia)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27/08/2012, at 5:13 AM, "Isaac Fried" <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You may well be right, except that "the ancients" are not the
>>>> authors
>>>> of the
>>>> Hebrew bible. As I understand it, XUG is 'arch, vault', referring to
>>>> the overhead sky.
>>>>
>>>> In 2Ch. 4:2 we find written:
>>>> ויעש את-הים מוצק עשר באמה משפתו אל
>>>> שפתו עגול סביב
>>>> וחמש באמה קומתו וקו שלשים באמה יסב
>>>> אתו
>>>> סביב
>>>>
>>>> "Also he made the molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim,
>>>> round in compass; and the height thereof was five cubits;
>>>> and a line of thirty cubits compassed it round about"
>>>>
>>>> Here, עגול סביב AGOL SABIYB evidently means a complete
>>>> circle,
>>>> evenly bent all around, in the true geometrical sense of the word,
>>>> and with Pi, the ratio circumference/diameter, given as 3.
>>>>
>>>> Etymologically, עגול AGOL is a variant of AKOL עקול (Hab.
>>>> 1:4
>>>> and Is. 27:1),
>>>> and עקלקל AKALKAL (Judges 5:6), 'bent, crooked'. Also of GAL,
>>>> 'mound, wave'.
>>>>
>>>> SBB סבב is a variant of צב CB and צבב CBB, 'pile up, swell'.
>>>>
>>>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Cliff Moody wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I fail to see why the ancients couldn't look at the moon, observe
>>>>> the phases
>>>>> replete with monthly crescents (as well as occasional lunar
>>>>> eclipses), and
>>>>> not be able to conclude that the moon is a sphere as opposed to a
>>>>> flat disk,
>>>>> and by association, conclude that the sun and earth, also
>>>>> celestrial bodies,
>>>>> were spherical. Does that seem so far fetched?
>>>>
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