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- From: Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin AT biu.ac.il>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram
- Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:16:10 +0300
Hi Brurya,
Nir Cohen addressed this in his post from a couple of days ago. In general,
first of all, the position of the term "ahi" in such names is exactly where
we would expect a theophoric element to be. Specifically, it is though that
"brother" as a term of endearment, famility and so on could refer to the
deity.
Shabbat Shalom,
Yigal
From: Yodan [mailto:yodan AT yodanco.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:01 PM
To: 'Yigal Levin'
Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram
Yigal, shalom again,
I hope this is not a bother...
I haven't heard back on my question, so I thought I'll re-send the email
below with the question "why would AH = brother" be used as a reference to
deity? I understand the use of father as God, but why brother?
Toda rabba!
Bruryah
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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:02 AM
To: 'Yigal Levin'; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram
Yigal, Shalom,
Thank you! Helpful information.
I knew about HIRAM = AHIRAM but I didn't know about AH(I) or AV(I) being
epithet for the deity. Do you have more information about this? I can see
why one would refer to a deity as "father", but why "brother"?
Toda rabba,
Bruryah Tashah
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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Yigal Levin
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:17 AM
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram
Other than in Isaac's reconstructions - no. The usual assumption is that
Mount Hermon was called that because it was considered sacred by the local
Canaanites (or whoever).
As far as Hiram, it is usually considered to be a shortened form of Ahiram,
a fairly common Phoenician and Hebrew name, literally meaning "my brother is
exalted", where "brother" is an epithet for the deity, similar to
"Ab(i)ram", "Ah(i)ab" and so on. So the name Hiram is actually not derived
from XRM.
Yigal Levin
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Re: [b-hebrew] historical question with linguistic import
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Re: [b-hebrew] historical question with linguistic import,
Yigal Levin, 07/15/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] historical question with linguistic import, Dave Washburn, 07/15/2012
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[b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yodan, 07/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Will Parsons, 07/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Will Parsons, 07/16/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram, Yodan, 07/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Will Parsons, 07/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Isaac Fried, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yodan, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yigal Levin, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yodan, 07/17/2012
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram, Yigal Levin, 07/20/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram, Yodan, 07/20/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yodan, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yigal Levin, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Isaac Fried, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] The root XRM,
Isaac Fried, 07/17/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] The root XRM, Isaac Fried, 07/18/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] The root XRM,
Isaac Fried, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Yodan, 07/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram,
Will Parsons, 07/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] historical question with linguistic import,
Yigal Levin, 07/15/2012
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