Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

I think we need to make a clear distinction between the meaning of  
the root,
which is material, or "basic", and the suggestive, borrowed, or implied,
meaning of a word.
Take for instance the root נשא NS), 'lift, elevate', and the word  
נשיא 'superior'.

I think that the root קדש QD$ is a variant of the root GD$ of GADI$,
'full, complete, replete', and hence קדוש QADO$ is essentially  
'meaningful, significant'.

The conjecture that XERMON is 'the holy one' is reasonable, but I  
don't believe,
not even for a brief moment, that כרמל KARMEL is KEREM-EL,
'god's plantation of grapevines'.
I rather think that the fraction כר KAR is 'hill, mound, meadow',
as in Is. 30:23,  and that MEL is 'full, plump, ample'.

I would be careful of interpreting the apparent fraction AXIY- in  
AXIY-RAM or AXIY-MELEK
as 'the brother of', the same way I would be careful of interpreting  
the apparent fraction
ABIY- in ABIY-GAYIL (1Sam. 25:3), or ABIY-$AG (1Ki. 1:3), as 'the  
father of'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jul 17, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Yodan wrote:

> Shalom and thanks for the response. I know the root HRM (XRM) has  
> several meanings, e.g. devote, dedicate, ban, confiscate, and  
> others, but I was unaware that it is also “tall, massive, mighty”.  
> Aside from the name Hermon, are there other examples of the use of  
> words or names of the root HRM with this meaning?
>
> Thanks,
> Bruryah
>
> From: Isaac Fried [mailto:if AT math.bu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:05 AM
> To: yodan AT yodanco.com
> Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hiram Hirom Huram
>
> If XIRAM is a word, and I am usually against seeing a proper name  
> as a word,
> of the root XRM, 'tall and massive, mighty', as in mount XERMON,  
> then the variants of
> this name provide an interesting example to the alternate uses of  
> the personal pronoun
> IY, as in היא HIY; U, as in הוא; and O, as in שלו $EL-O, 'his'.
> The purpose of the inserted personal pronouns is to add the  
> declaration "he is", to XRM.
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Yodan wrote:
>
>
> the names HIRAM, HIROM, and HURAM