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- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: David Kolinsky <yishalom AT sbcglobal.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh
- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:13:23 -0700
David:
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:57 PM, David Kolinsky
<yishalom AT sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> PTCh evolved from PTH,
No way, the meanings are too divergent.
פתה to allure, entice → פתי gullible, gullibility. In other words, the verb
refers to taking advantage of others’ gullibility. It has nothing to do
with opening.
פתח to open, the basic sense is to open a hole, opening, door ⇒ to dig or
engrave a hole, ditch, groove as in writing, furrow in field, carving in
relief on a wall or door. In short, the action is to make a void where
previously there was a solid.
>
>
> PQCh has more of a sense of "to burst or pop open" because it evolved from
> PWQ / (PQH) meaning:
>
פוק to reach out (to) for the purpose of giving, taking or for support when
stumbling. As often happens in Biblical Hebrew, the purpose for reaching
out is more important that the reaching out itself as far as translation is
concerned.
פקה (not a Biblical Hebrew word, no meaning.)
פקח to open in the sense of giving vision, hearing. The idea of opening
comes from the English usage, did the ancients even think of opening? Or
did they think of enabling?
The similarities between the two are a case of CONVERGENT EVOLUTION found
> in language and nothing more.
>
> Sincerely,
> David Kolinsky
> Monterey California
>
> In order to show etymologies, one needs to show also similarities of
meaning. But in these cases, the meanings are so different that no
etymological connection can be made.
Karl W. Randolph.
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[b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
David Kolinsky, 04/15/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh, Isaac Fried, 04/15/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Bill, 04/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Isaac Fried, 04/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Bill, 04/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
K Randolph, 04/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Bill, 04/20/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh, K Randolph, 04/21/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh, George Athas, 04/22/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Will Parsons, 04/22/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Isaac Fried, 04/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Will Parsons, 04/23/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh, Isaac Fried, 04/24/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Will Parsons, 04/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Isaac Fried, 04/23/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Bill, 04/20/2012
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