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- From: George Athas <George.Athas AT moore.edu.au>
- To: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh
- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:43:13 +0000
Uri is indeed correct. The letter peh (פ) was not drawn as a circle. That was
the letter ayin (ע). The original grapheme was a depiction of an eye (Heb:
עין), and the circularity was preserved when the Greek adopted the alphabet
and the letter became omicron. The letter peh was originally drawn as a loop
opened at the bottom, with the right side extending down. See the following
link for a good depiction.
http://biblescripture.net/Alphabet.jpeg
Accordingly, the letter peh has nothing to do with the concept of openness.
GEORGE ATHAS
Dean of Research,
Moore Theological College (moore.edu.au)
Sydney, Australia
From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com<mailto:uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 2:32 AM
To: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org<mailto:b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>>
Subject: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh
Wasn't the circle a mark of the '(' 'Ayin' in all
early samples of the Alphabet?
Uri Hurwitz Great Neck, NY
hebrew] PQH vs PTCh
Bill wrschmidt wrote:
.........
In fact, in retrospect I don't think one can summarily dismiss the
possibility that the concept of opening in these verbs was originally
inchoate in the scribal practice of using a circle as a logogram to
represent the opening that Hebrew wordsmiths called peh, considering
that 1) the letter peh was by all accounts originally nothing but a
circle, and 2) words for mouths, per se, were derived from words that
referred more broadly to opening.
................
Bill
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[b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
Uri Hurwitz, 04/16/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
George Athas, 04/16/2012
- Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh, K Randolph, 04/17/2012
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Re: [b-hebrew] PQH vs PTCh,
George Athas, 04/16/2012
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