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  • From: Yigal Levin <Yigal.Levin AT biu.ac.il>
  • To: b-hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Kalev and Kelev - THREAD OVER
  • Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:11:37 +0300

Not only did I not follow that, but it was posted after a moderator had
called for an end to the thread, and the post was not signed. Double offence.
Please don't make it a triple.

Yigal levin,

Co-Moderator, B-hebrew

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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Andronic Khandjani
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:44 PM
To: Uri Hurwitz
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Kalev and Kelev

I may suggest another Arabic root:"Qein, Lam, be"(G, the name in "fael bab"
the equivalent of poel "Qaleb"'(غالب) would mean:"the winner". Usually qein
is replaced in middle Hebrew by "Ain" as in Gomorha but it maybe replaced by
qof and kaf.

2011/9/14 Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>

> The form Kalev most proabaly preserves the original pronounciation of
> the name. The Segholites prounounciation in the MT follows the dialectic
> changes in the original nouns.
>
> This is clearly evident in the declensions of the Segholites, in our
> case: "Kalbi" "kalbekha" etc, and in the pulural "Klavim" which preserves
> the ancient plural *KLAB plus the regular Hebrew ms. plural ending - ym.
>
> This is found in Arabic to this day: e.g. "kalb" in singular.
>
> Therefore the biblical personal name Kalev is very close to the original
> pronounciation, except that the original short vowel 'a ' lengthened in the
> MT.
>
> Uri Hurwitz Wilmington, VT
>
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