Biblical Hebrew Forum

[David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>]

Hi all

I came across an earlier discussion on the prpronunciationf the Name of
YHVH, looking again at the evidence for the pronunciation as YAHWEH
using early CE Greek manuscripts (now closed). I used to wonder how
modern scholars came to that particular pronuciation, as I would have
expected something like YiHVeH from my meager Hebrew knowledge.
snip/snip
Comments?

Regards
Chavoux Luyt

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Hi Chavoux,
The Editors of the Encyclopedia Britannica of 1911, under thetopic
JEHOVAH (Yahweh)writes:"The early Christian scholars who inquired what
was the true name of the God of the Old Testament, had therefore no great
difficulty in getting the information they sought. Clement of Alexandria
(d. c. 212)says that it was pronounced Iaoue.”Garth Grenache who posts on
B-Hebrew from Australia, has written off-line to me that Iaoue would be a
fine transcription of “Yahweh”.However under a footnote for the above
sentence, in the Encyclopedia Britannica of 1911, the editors lists
“Strom. V.6 Variants: Ia oue, Ia ouai; cod. L. Iaou.”There are at least
three variants for Stromata V, 6:34, but theextant 12th century Greek
Codex L has Ia?? and not Iaoue. Also.in my own personal study of the name
"Iaoue" between the years 1200 A.D.and about 1850 A.D. I found no
scholarly source that listed Iaoue as having been written by Clement of
A.However the 1905 A.D. Greek critical edition of Clement’sStromata V,
6:34 by Otto Stählin does list the form "?a???,among the variants for
Clement’s Stromata V, 6:34.Dave Donnelly      
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Chavoux:

If you had read all the posts concerning the pronunciation of Biblical
Hebrew, you would have found that there is disagreement on how the ancients
pronounced the whole language, which affects how YHWH was pronounced. Then
because Greek did not have the H and W letters, there is disagreement on ho=
w
those letters were distributed within the Greek stream of vowels.
Furthermore, we find more than one transliteration into Greek, so which one
was the correct one? Therefore, the most accurate statement is that we don=
=E2=80=99t
know how YHWH was pronounced. =E2=80=9CYahweh=E2=80=9D is merely a 19th cen=
tury guess.

Karl W. Randolph.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Chavoux Luyt <chavoux AT gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I came across an earlier discussion on the pronuciation of the Name of
> YHVH, looking again at the evidence for the pronunciation as YAHWEH
> using early CE Greek manuscripts (now closed). I used to wonder how
> modern scholars cam to that particular pronuciation, as I would have
> expected something like YiHVeH from my meager Hebrew knowledge.
> Looking at the discussion there is one option that I did not see
> considered and I wondered what people with a better knowledge of
> Hebrew would make of it. Is it not possible for the Name to be in
> Pi'el form giving:
> Y'HaVeH (where the ' =3D sheva)? This would probably still look the same
> when transcibed in Greek, but made better sense to me of the Hebrew.
>
> Comments?
>
> Regards
> Chavoux Luyt