b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Biblical Hebrew Forum
List archive
Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative)
- From: K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
- To: schmuel <schmuel AT nyc.rr.com>
- Cc: "b-hebrew-lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative)
- Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:08:03 -0800
Steven:
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:39 PM, schmuel <schmuel AT nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Karl,
>
>> Why look at translations?
>>
>
> Steven
> When learned men do superb translations, they may be using a different text
> or seeing the text differently.…
You missed my point. There are two main things I have against translations:
1) language differences, where an exact translation is not possible, or for
stylistic reasons is not practical, and 2) the translators are human, prone
to error. Going beyond those two, I find it usually best to tackle on a case
by case basis.
>
>
> 1 Kings 8:27 (KJB)
>> But will God indeed dwell on the earth?
>> behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee;
>> how much less this house that I have builded?
>> We have a double interrogative in the AV.
>>
> Karl,
>
> I don't see the double interrogative in Hebrew. This is a phrase that has
>> no exact equivalent in English, which the translators of the AV decided
>> would make best sense if translated as an interrogative. As far as I can
>> tell, it is not an interrogative in Hebrew.
>>
>
> Steven
> Karl, thanks.
> "it is not an interrogative " - it is unclear if you are talking about the
> second interrogative above only, or both. Most everybody translates the
> first phrase as an interrogative.
>
> In the Hebrew, the first interrogative is clearly interrogative. The second
runs into problem #1 above, namely the differences between Biblical Hebrew
and English makes is difficult to translate this sentence exactly, and for
stylistic reasons to change a statement to an interrogative that preserves
the idea of the sentence. This is not to fault the translators, rather to
recognize the linguistic difficulties of making a good translation that
preserves the ideas of the text while being stylistically accurate and
readable in the target language.
Karl W. Randolph.
-
[b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative),
schmuel, 12/24/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative), K Randolph, 12/24/2010
-
Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative),
fred burlingame, 12/24/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative), Paul Zellmer, 12/24/2010
-
Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative),
Harold Holmyard, 12/24/2010
-
Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative),
schmuel, 12/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative), Harold Holmyard, 12/25/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative), K Randolph, 12/25/2010
-
Re: [b-hebrew] 1 Kings 8:27 - how much less this house that I have builded (interrogative),
schmuel, 12/25/2010
Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.24.