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  • From: fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
  • To: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] נצח
  • Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:21:52 -0600

Pere,

Versification numbering represents a relatively recent invention, alien to
the ancient textual tradition. Hence, the recent editors assign slightly
different numbers, depending on which version of the document they market.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Bible#chapters_and_verses

You are correct. The verse number 17 appears in some versions.

regards,

fred burlingame

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com> wrote:

> Fred,
>
> maybe you intended to say 2Ch 2:17 in your second quotation?
>
> Pere Porta
>
> 2010/12/14 fred burlingame <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
>
>> Hello all:
>>
>> Does this little word testify to the big fact that individual words
>> possess
>> no meaning outside of actual usage?
>>
>> In Isaiah 63:3,
>>
>> פורה דרכתי לבדי ומעמים אין איש אתי ואדרכם באפי וארמסם בחמתי ויז נצחם על
>> בגדי
>> וכל מלבושי אגאלתי
>>
>> the operative word נצח becomes "grape juice," figurative of blood.
>>
>> In 2 Chronicles 2:18,
>>
>> ויעש מהם שבעים אלף סבל ושמנים אלף חצב בהר ושלשת אלפים ושש מאות מנצחים
>> להעביד
>> את העם
>>
>> the relevant word נצח changes course entirely, and becomes "ones
>> managing."
>>
>> In Lamentations 3:18,
>>
>> ואמר אבד נצחי ותוחלתי מיהוה
>>
>> the word in question נצח moves again substantially in meaning to
>> "strength."
>>
>> Returning to Isaiah, 13:20,
>>
>> לא תשב לנצח ולא תשכן עד דור ודור ולא יהל שם ערבי ורעים לא ירבצו שם
>>
>> the word reverses course yet again into a "long period of time."
>>
>> Of course, an alternate conclusion presents itself. Does the leningrad
>> codex
>> include an amalgam of different languages compiled into the form of single
>> document, via centuries of creating and editing pieces and parts of it?
>> Such
>> a conclusion would permit the use of dictionaries, whereas the original
>> conclusion would not. For if the word depends entirely on what a user
>> chooses for meaning, in his arbitrary wisdom, then until used, it has no
>> meaning at all.
>>
>> I welcome your comments.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> fred burlingame
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