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  • From: "Bryant J. Williams III" <bjwvmw AT com-pair.net>
  • To: "fred burlingame" <tensorpath AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org, "Nir cohen - Prof. Mat." <nir AT ccet.ufrn.br>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Digest, Vol 96, Issue 13
  • Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:19:39 -0800

Dear Fred,

(ad (olam - Instensive use with the idea of "from everlasting to everlasting."
Ps 90:2
Ps 103:17 - Chesedh
Ps 106:48 = I Chron 16:36; Neh 9:5; I Chron 29: 16; Ps 41:14 -
benedictions
Jer 7:7; 25:8 - land given
Pss 115:18; 121:8 - from now and for ever (basically, as long as one
lives)
Ps 131:3 - of people's hope in God
Isa 9:6 - Davidic Dynasty
Mic 4:7; Isa 59:21; Pss 125:2; 113:2 - of God's acts, words, etc.

For further instances check out BDB, (ad, pp. 723-725; (olam, pp. 761-763).

The following is a breakdown of )olam:
ancient time, 1x
beginning of the world, 1x
continuance, 1x
ever, 267x
everlasting, 11x
evermore, 15x
old, 7x
old time, 1x
world, 2x
Genitive use:
always, 1x
ancient, 5x
at any time, 1x
eternal, 1x
everlasting, 53x
for ever (forever), 3x
lasting, 1x
long, 2x
old, 6x
perpetual, 20x
Plural
old, 2x

(ad (olam - any more (anymore) - 2x
le-(olam - alway, 2x
le-(olamim - of old time, 1x
Me-(olam
ever of old, 1x
long time, 1x
of old, 6x
of old time, 2x

(ad
eternity, 1x
ever, 42x
everlasting, 2x
evermore, 1x
perpetually, 1x

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

----- Original Message -----
From: fred burlingame
To: Bryant J. Williams III
Cc: Nir cohen - Prof. Mat. ; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] b-hebrew Digest, Vol 96, Issue 13



Hello Bryant:

1. If עד עולם can mean finite and/or infinite time periods ..... depending
on context;

2. and if another word fails to appear nearby that expressly generates the
meaning of finite or infinite, it seems to me .... we have arrived in the
land of theology.

I would appreciate if you could identify for me a specific verse where:

a. עולם ; or עד עולם ; or any other grouping of these words; appears;

b. means "infinite time" or "eternity;" and

c. some other words in the context boost the meaning into "infinite time"
or "eternity;" rather than faith, beliefs, or theology achieving the meaning
of eternity?

regards,

fred burlingame


On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bryant J. Williams III
<bjwvmw AT com-pair.net> wrote:

Dear Nir,

I think that the idea is one of an "unkown specificity of time." Whether
that is
in the distant past, simple past, future or distant future is determined
by the
context. The must be a distinction made between temporal or a finite time
and
non-temporal or infinite time. This is especially true of certain
prophecies or
promises, e.g. Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III

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