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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew
- From: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
- To: jimstinehart AT aol.com
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew
- Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:44:40 +0200
>
> (JS)
>
> 1. Biblical Hebrew records primarily consonants. At Genesis 18: 2 we see
$L$H, but I don’t think anyone views that as an initial consonant
cluster. It’s
thought to be $ + implied vowel + L +implied vowel + $ + H.
> However, a lamed/L is [like a resh/R] a so-called “sonorant”, and according
> to some linguists, a Hebrew could pronounce $ + sonorant + vowel as a
> single syllable. “The words for ‘2’ are the only words in the language that
> commence with an initial consonant cluster, permissible because of the
> sibilant + sonorant combination in *s**nayim *and the sibilant + stop in
> *s**tayim *(see Hoberman 1989).” “Ancient Hebrew Morphology”, by Gary A.
> Rendsburg.**
>
> All of N and L and R are sonorants. Since $N is possible [and attested
> once in Biblical Hebrew] as an initial consonant cluster, $L + vowel and $R
> + vowel are theoretically possible as well, though not attested in Biblical
> Hebrew.
>
> (PP)
>
> In my learning days L and R were called "liquid" consonants
>
>
>
> because they can be easily pronounced with -or, better, after- another
> consonant as in* blow, bread.*
>>
>> But, what about the biblical (K)PG$ we find in Jr 41:6? (of course we have
>> to mentally discard K) or about SPQ in Ez 21:17?
>>
>> It is alike that a (biblical) Hebrew could utter Shrek since he could
>> utter SFOQ, isn't it?
>>
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>>
>> Pere Porta
>>
>> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
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[b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 06/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
K Randolph, 06/10/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Pere Porta, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
George Athas, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/11/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew, Isaac Fried, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 06/11/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew, Pere Porta, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
George Athas, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Pere Porta, 06/11/2010
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
JimStinehart, 06/11/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew, Yitzhak Sapir, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
JimStinehart, 06/11/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
George Athas, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Kevin Riley, 06/12/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew, jimstinehart, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Kevin Riley, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
jimstinehart, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
Yitzhak Sapir, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
James Christian, 06/13/2010
- Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew, James Christian, 06/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
James Christian, 06/13/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
George Athas, 06/12/2010
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Re: [b-hebrew] Initial Consonant Clusters in Biblical Hebrew,
K Randolph, 06/10/2010
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