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  • From: "Richard" <aaa AT endlyss.com>
  • To: "'Dianne Burke'" <biblestudy.burke AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 2:18 "help meet"
  • Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:21:36 -0800


God does what He does. If He had needed to use other words He would have.
Chavvah was obviously a "female companion, mate, neighbor woman" so I think
that it just is what it is.

Richard Conaway




From: Dianne Burke [mailto:biblestudy.burke AT gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:11 AM
To: aaa AT endlyss.com
Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 2:18 "help meet"

Thanks Richard,

>From what my little understanding of Hebrew, what do you think of this
statement?

>
If God wanted to be specific about a female mate for Adam he would have used
this word:


7468

07468 r@`uwth {reh-ooth'}

from 07462 in the sense of 07453; TWOT - 2186e; n f

AV - neighbour 2, another 2, mate 2; 6

1) female companion, mate, neighbour woman
>

Is this correct? Or is it that God was just trying to get across an idea?

Thanks,
Dianne Burke







On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Richard <aaa AT endlyss.com> wrote:
There are other ways to translate it as well. Opposite, counterpart. "A help
corresponding to him" (BDB). Yes, with a general meaning of "In front of
him" as Ben said.

That is why reading the Hebrew is full of surprises around every little
turn. Like going from 2-dimension black and white to 3 dimensional living
color.

Richard Conaway




> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Burke
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:36 AM
> To: Ben Crick
> Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 2:18 "help meet"
>
> Dear Ben,
>
> Many thanks for your thorough answer.
>
> Especially this bit:
>
> 'e`e:&eH-LoW `eCeR K:NeG:DoW [&=Sin; C=tsodhe]
> I-shall-make-for-him a helper as-one-by-his-side
>
> Shalom,
> Dianne Burke
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Ben Crick <ben.crick AT argonet.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> > On Sat 20 Feb 2010 (15:27:46 +0800), biblestudy.burke AT gmail.com wrote:
> > > Then he concludes by saying that the last Hebrew word-form in Genesis
> > > 2:18, though sadly not indexed by the OLB, has a sense along the lines
> > > of "as in-front-of him", which the KJV has given as "meet for him".
> >
> > 'e`e:&eH-LoW `eCeR K:NeG:DoW [&=Sin; C=tsodhe]
> > I-shall-make-for-him a helper as-one-by-his-side
> >
> > God brought the animals to Adam for him to name them. Apparently they
> > all came in *pairs*: but for Adam there was no "pair". So God took a
"rib"
> > (CeLe`) from Adam's chest and cloned Eve from it. He only needed one
cell
> > for
> > the DNA code, but he had to snip the Y chromosome and supply an extra X
to
> > make a female. (verse 21)
> >
> > Matthew Henry observes "not from his head to be her superior; not from
> > his feet to be his inferior, but from his side to be his equal" (or
words
> > to
> > that effect). Did Adam approve of Eve? He was thrilled - Zo'T HaPPa`aM
!
> > he exclaimed: "WOW!!!" He didn't know what had hit him like a hammer!
> > The English versions vastly understate his reaction. (verse 23)
> >
> > The OLB you cite appears to be offering the "Strong's Numbers". These
are
> > useful, but not always a good guide. NeGeD is a segholate noun meaning
the
> > front part of the body. As a preposition, it means before, opposite, in
> > front
> > of, beside. In Genesis 2:18 God took the rib from his "chest", which is
> > where
> > one's ribs are! The rib is the only bone which will regenerate itself
> > after
> > one is amputated.
> >
> > Shalom
> > Ben
> > --
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