Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Michael J Miles" <mjmorthotics0 AT msn.com>]

I vote for the abbreviated monosyllable Yah; then the extended dual-syllable 
Yehweh or Yahweh; then the fullest and most proper tri-syllabic Yehowah or 
Y'HOWAH; agreeing with those like Tregelles and Ginsburg.  Mike Miles.

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From: "Richard" <aaa AT endlyss.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:16 PM
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Patriarchs used YHWH's name?

> Hi Christian,
>
> One answer to your question is available here on page 11:
> http://www.karaite-korner.org/yhwh_2.pdf
>
> I don't want to offend anyone by saying more.
>
> Richard Conaway
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> > bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of James Christian
> > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:45 PM
> > To: Yohanan bin-Dawidh
> > Cc: Biblical Hebrew list
> > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Patriarchs used YHWH's name?
> >
> > Thanks for that Yohanan. So how do Karaites who use the name vocalise it?
> >
> > James Christian
> >
> > 2009/12/24 Yohanan bin-Dawidh <yohanan.bin.dawidh AT gmail.com>
> >
> > > Shalom Yigal;
> > >
> > > Not speaking of modern Karaite sages, since currently there are mixed
> > > opinions with regards to both Talmudh Bavli and Talmudh Yerushalmi, 
> > > most
> > > ancient Karaite sages recommended that we as Karaites study both 
> > > Talmudh
> > > Bavli and Talmudh Yerushalmi. The difference was that we were suppose 
> > > to
> > > weigh everything in them against the written Torah, and those things
> which
> > > were found not in agreement with the written Torah, we were suppose to
> > > ignore.
> > > As to the official opinion of Karaites concerning the patriarchs using
> the
> > > name, Ibn Ezra was wrong, for such was not our opinion, at least not
> > > officially, since there is not official opinion among Karaites with
> regards
> > > to such. In ancient times there was no official body of Karaites who
> > > determined what Karaites were to believe, or not to believe, and each
> > > community had its own customs, and beliefs, this is why some sages from
> > > community would speak against sages from another community. Some 
> > > Karaite
> > > sages form times past thought it was wrong to use the name, YHWH,
> whereas
> > > others thought it must be used, if one was to properly follow the words
> of
> > > the Torah. As long as a person could come to their conclusion, and 
> > > argue
> > > such properly, from the p'shat (plain-meaning) of the text, and using
> > > haqesh
> > > (comparitive analogy), then their view could be accepted as their view.
> > > The patriarchs did use the name, according to all ancient writings that
> I
> > > have read from Karaite sages, and the name was even known among pagans
> > > during the time of the patriarchs, but these people did not know the
> true
> > > meaning of the name until Mosheh explained it to them.
> > >
> > > I know this is not supposed to be a theological discussion, so if my
> words
> > > above seem as such, forgive me. I just wanted to clarify certain 
> > > things.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Yo*h*anan bin-Dawidh
> > >
> > > Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
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