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  • From: Randall Buth <randallbuth AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Job and lqbl
  • Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:44:18 +0300

You are not reading my questions correctly. I was asking for
a dialect profile of a verb "qbl", which would include any and all forms
with pronoun prefixes and/or suffixes, with or without vav, or a preposition,
and I was not interested in Hif`il forms, since that is a different
verb. I was adding 'L' in order to clarify that a Hif`il was not wanted in
the discussion.


Your statement "perfectly good Hebrew" is true
but it is not a dialect profile.

If it is intending to suggest that it is normal First Temple
Hebrew then you have explaining to do.

There are
4 in Esther,
1 in Ezra and
4 in Chronicles.

2 in Job 2.
1 in Prov 19.

qbl is mIssing elsewhere even though it would fit many a context where
l.q.H 'take' occurs (also called laqaHat)

Do you still maintain that our published Job framework story
is pre-exilic?

Below is the original post AND the lamed is deleted

Maybe vowels would help our communication. I was referring to
le-qabbel 'to receive, take, accept'.
or without lamed:
qabbel.

vayyixtov Karl
>> > I would put Job as late pre-Babylonian Exile from the literary
>>> style. Once one recognizes the style, he is only middling difficult to
>>> read
>>> and well within the mainstream Biblical Hebrew.>

. . .

So on Job,
Please explain the verb
q-b-l (not 'hqbyl')
קבל (not הקביל)
in Job 1-2.

Where did q-b-l come from? (borrowed from Aramaic?)

What is its Hebrew profile in the Hebrew Bible--

is it clearly attested in First Temple contexts? (no, it's but conspicuous in
SecondTemple)

How was it used in cognate literature of the Second Temple outside of the
Hebrew Bible? (both Aramaic and mishnaic Hebrew, plus Literary Hebrew)

What phrase, word, or idiom, might it supplement or expand from
First Temple Hebrew so as not to be likely to be accidentally missing from
First Temple? (e.g. laqaH)

Hurvitz concluded that l-q-b-l was 'Second Temple'. I agree.

blessings
Randall

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