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[dwashbur AT nyx.net]

This link is so far beyond reaching, I'm not sure English has a word for it.

Homonyms happen in most every language of which I am aware, including Hebrew. 
 There 
is no need for this kind of linguistic back-flip to try and explain them 
away.  The simplest 
answer is usually the most likely to be correct.

On 2 Aug 2009 at 9:16, Vadim Cherny wrote:

> Steinberg's dictionary offers a different explanation, actually.
> He traces kasaph to "pale." Silver is pale and yearning makes one
> pale. 
> Sometimes, casaph is used directly in the sense of "to become
> pale."
> The common meaning is always there, no homonyms.
> 
> Vadim Cherny
> 
> 
> Isaac Fried wrote:
> >
> > I would summarily reject any claim to the effect that KISUPIM, 
> > 'yearning' is even remotely predicated on the desire for money,
> KESEP. 
> >
> >
> > Isaac Fried, Boston University
> >
> > On Aug 1, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Vadim Cherny wrote:
> >
> >> Homonyms are *unrelated* at all, which is never the case with
> Hebrew 
> >> words.
> >> Sometimes, the connection is clear, as between "silver" and 
> >> "yearning". Sometimes, less so: you need to see the common
> "biting" 
> >> between "lion" and "frost."
> >>
> >> Vadim Cherny
> >>
> >> Isaac Fried wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Every Hebrew word is derived from a meaningful root. Words
> derived 
> >>> from the same root need not be "horizontally" related. Think
> about 
> >>> the minimal pairs KPOR, 'frost, crust", and KPIR, 'lion'; or 
> >>> "KESEP", 'silver'', and KISUPIM, 'yearning'. 
> >>> The basic meaning of $Q is 'elevated, elongated, large, piled
> up'. 
> >>> $UK is an elevated (paved?) path, $OK is the long and fleshy
> [SAGI)] 
> >>> leg part. The modern Hebrew $QIQAH, 'eagerness, desire', from
> the 
> >>> biblical root $QQ, is an emotional build-up. 
> >>>
> >>> Isaac Fried, Boston University
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Vadim Cherny wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The thing is, Hebrew lacks homonyms. What you see as homonyms
> are 
> >>>> actually related meanings. As Karl saw for himself, finding the
> >>>> common meaning requires some study but it is always there. This
> is 
> >>>> a function of root cells. I take Steinberg's dictionary for a
> fine 
> >>>> example of such search.
> >>>>
> >>>> Vadim Cherny
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ishinan:  My suggestion is to apply the comparative method
> among 
> >>>>> other daughter Semitic languages (such as Akkadian, Ugaritic,
> >>>>> Arabic,  Ge?ez, etc.) to your examples.  Consult the
> respective 
> >>>>> Proto-Semitic etymologies.  You'll actually discover that the 
> >>>>> examples you gave above are homonyms. 
> >>>>> I have found that sometimes the entries in Strong's Exhaustive
> >>>>> Concordance of the Bible can be misleading. 
> >>>>> For example:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 7783 shuwq  overflow, water. 7784 shuwq shook street. 7785
> showq 
> >>>>> shoke the (lower) leg/shin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> These are not related. Hope this helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ishinan B. Ishibashi
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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