Biblical Hebrew Forum

[David Kolinsky <yishalom AT sbcglobal.net>]

To Bruce,
 
Regarding your statement:
"In these verses, qashar and ataph are translated generally as "stronger" and
"weaker". Although ataph could be close to the mark, I've got my doubts
about the meaning given to qasher, because no other use of this word in the
Hebrew Scriptures appears to support it."
 
You should know that my opinions have never been recognized as valid on this 
site but nevertheless:
 
As I am sure you know QShR generally means "to bind and tie" and "to bind 
together and conspire."  According to my controversial opinion, it is related 
to other words beginning with QSh such as QShH = "hard, stiff, firm, strong, 
difficult, fierce etc;"  QShT = "bow (firm);" QShCh = "to harden" and NQSh = 
"to seize (grab firmly)"
 
It is also related to QSR in Arabic "(be firm with >) force, compel, coerce, 
subjugate, subdue."
 
I think the best English translation for the use in Genesis that you are 
referring to is "hardy" which makes use of a similar linquistic analogy / 
metaphor in which "hard / firm" means "strong."
 
Regards,
David Kolinsky
Monterey, CA, USA
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Hi David

Many thanks. What you've stated is the best I have because you're the only
one who has so far responded. 

Thanks for taking the trouble.

Bruce Prince



-----Original Message-----
From: On Behalf Of David Kolinsky
Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2009 3:27 PM
 
To Bruce,
 
Regarding your statement:
"In these verses, qashar and ataph are translated generally as "stronger"
and
"weaker". Although ataph could be close to the mark, I've got my doubts
about the meaning given to qasher, because no other use of this word in the
Hebrew Scriptures appears to support it."
 
You should know that my opinions have never been recognized as valid on this
site but nevertheless:
 
As I am sure you know QShR generally means "to bind and tie" and "to bind
together and conspire."  According to my controversial opinion, it is
related to other words beginning with QSh such as QShH = "hard, stiff, firm,
strong, difficult, fierce etc;"  QShT = "bow (firm);" QShCh = "to harden"
and NQSh = "to seize (grab firmly)"
 
It is also related to QSR in Arabic "(be firm with >) force, compel, coerce,
subjugate, subdue."
 
I think the best English translation for the use in Genesis that you are
referring to is "hardy" which makes use of a similar linquistic analogy /
metaphor in which "hard / firm" means "strong."
 
Regards,
David Kolinsky
Monterey, CA, USA