Biblical Hebrew Forum

[TedBro AT aol.com]

Kenneth:
 
First of all, I'm Jewish and I certainly did not intend to insult either  all 
Jewish people or the Massoretes. However, given variety in the available  
manuscript families, it is undeniable that groups tend to use those that 
support  
their particular view. The verse in question is a Christian proof text in 
that  it claims a high station for Christ such that the angels of God worship 
him. 
 
An example of such biases from the NT, and I hope I don't get in trouble  for 
this either, is a verse in 1 John 5:7 that crept into late manuscripts to  
support the Trinity, parapharsing "there are three that bear witness in 
Heaven,  
the Father, Son and Holy Ghost and these three are one." Manuscripts from  
before the 15th century do not contain these words, Nevertheless they got 
into  
the King James Version. This, of course, is not to say that a scribe made it 
up  out of whole cloth. The added words may have been a scribal gloss that 
was 
added  to the text in stages.
 
Peace,
Ted Brownstein
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In a message dated 2/1/2009 2:52:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il writes:

Kenneth,

There's no reason for you to be "in trouble", but I  don't think that Ted 
intended to insult anyone. While I don't agree with  his asessment, he does 
have a right to state his opinion.

Yigal  Levin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kenneth greifer"  <greifer AT hotmail.com>
To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent:  Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: [b-hebrew] 1Q287 Tanakh Deut.  32:43


>
>
> Ted,
>
> I think it was kind  of insulting to Jewish people to say that the 
> Masoretic scholars  would drop a quote from the Torah because it could be 
> used as a proof  text by Christians. You said that all people are biased, 
> so maybe you  believe that Christians added some proof texts. I know that 
> we can't  discuss religion on B-hebrew, but it does not seem fair that you 
> can  say bad things about Jewish people, but you don't say bad things about 
 
> Christian people.
>
> I think the Jewish scholars did not  drop controversial quotes from the 
> Torah because there are many so  called "proof texts" in the Tanakh. If 
> they had dropped them, then  there would be many fewer quotes, and this 
> particular quote you  pointed out does not even sound like a Messianic 
> proof quote to  me.
>
> I will probably be in trouble for writing this, but I  can't believe what 
> you said, and that nobody said anything about  it.
>
> Kenneth  Greifer
>


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