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  • From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] Fw: Linguistic, historical, cultural origins of yahweh
  • Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:49:12 -0800 (PST)














   Gad, they all deal in one form or another with the subjects which
interest you.
 
   There is no consensus here, and many of the answers are speculative.
Just one example: De Moor holds that the name in question, YHWH,
is of northern, Aramaic origin. To me he is persuasive, but others disagree.
 
   Be that as it may, the search itself is rewarding.
 
    Uri Hurwitz                                                          
Great Neck,NY                                           
 
 
 
 
To Uri and the other respondents-- Thank you!

While it looks as a whole lot of resources if not suggested research I am
wondering whether those who suggested books could also direct me to the ones
that deal more with the very origin of the name.

To my understanding there is less than a handful of references to the name in
extra-biblical sources  in the late bronze age or  Iron Age. I wonder also
whether it bears any characteristics that would associate it with a semitic
language.

Does any of the suggested books touch on those issues?

Gad Zack





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This is mine understanding too as being the primary use of a meteg in
general, and is what is generally believed.



An extension of this is to "raise the voice" (hence the name Ga'ya form
Lig'ot), so that the syllable is not pronounced hastily or glossed over.



However, there is a view that when a Shva appears after a meteg, such Shva
is (usually?) a Shva Na, and I was curious if people on this list are
familiar with this view and, if so, does anyone know if the Masoretes write
about this use explicitly or was it a later view, and - if the latter - was
it a view initiated by medieval grammarians.



My interest here is not in how people today view a meteg (and whether they
consider a following Shva as Na or NaH), but the historical perspective.



Thanks to those who are (or will) discuss this on this list, and thanks to
those who provided me with references.



Rivka



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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Meteg and Shva Na/Nah



I've understood the metheg to indicate that the vowel to which it is
attached is to be given its fullest possible value. The need for this comes
from the syllables and phonetic values around the vowel which might lead one
to think that the vowel should be shorter.





Regards,

GEORGE ATHAS

Moore Theological College (Sydney)

Ph: 9577 9774. Mob: 0449 758 100

www.moore.edu.au





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