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- From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
- To: "<pporta AT oham.net>" <pporta AT oham.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47 - Suffix -UT
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:02:09 -0500
Pere,
The flow chart should go, methinks, this way
----------> MELEK, king
MLK, root
----------> MALKUT, kingdom, kingship
Now, matters become befogged because we jump from one language to another and think that by mechanical translation we achieve understanding. To understand the Hebrew you need to explain to yourself what MELEK and MALKUT mean without using the English equivalents, only the root MLK.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:05 AM, <pporta AT oham.net> <pporta AT oham.net> wrote:
Your argument is very clear to me, except that I still don't see HOW
the particle, to use your terminology, -UT turns a noun into an
abstract noun.
Isaac Fried, Boston University
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Melek, king ---------> malkut (malk-ut), royalty (1Ch 29:25)
How can this -ut be explained as a combining of personal pronouns?
For confirmation: in Israeli Hebrew.... there are plenty of cases where a final -ut means an abstract concept:
1. adom, red ---------> admut, redness
2. pikeaH, seer (Ex 4:11) ----------> pikHut, cleverness
3. sefer, book ---------> sifrut, literature
etc. etc.
Pere Porta
Barcelona (Spain)
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[b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?
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[b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?,
jimstinehart, 11/23/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?, dwashbur, 11/23/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/24/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?, Isaac Fried, 11/24/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?,
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?, Isaac Fried, 11/25/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?, George Athas, 11/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?, Isaac Fried, 11/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47 - Suffix -UT, pporta, 11/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47 - Suffix -UT, Isaac Fried, 11/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47 - Suffix -UT, Yitzhak Sapir, 11/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47 - Suffix -UT, Isaac Fried, 11/28/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47 - Suffix -UT, K Randolph, 11/28/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?,
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[b-hebrew] Genesis 31: 47: What Foreign Language Is That?,
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