Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Kevin W. Woodruff" <cierpke AT prodigy.net>]

Michael:

In Genesis 17:1; 35:11 it is translated QEOS SOU (your God)

In Genesis 28:3; 43:14; 48:3 it is translated QEOS MOU (my God)

In Genesis 49:25 it is translated QEOS hO EMOS (my God)

In Exodus 6:3 it is translated as QEOS AUTWN (their God)

In Numbers 24:4,16 it is translated QEOS (God)

In Psalms 91:1 it is translated QEOS TOO OURANOU (God of Heaven)

In Ruth 1:20; Job 21:15; 31:2; 40:2  it is translated hO IKANOS or just 
IKANOS (The Sufficient One)

In Job 5:17; 8:5; 11:7;15:25; 22:17, 25; 27:11; 32:8; 33:4  it is translated 
PANTOKRATOR (Almighty)

 In Job 6:4, 14;13:3; 21:20; 22:23,26;  it is KURIOS. (Lord)

In Job 27:10 it is translated AUTOS (He)

In Job 8:3 it is hO TA PANTA POIESAS (He that made all things)

 It is hO EPOURANIOS  (The Heavenly One) in Psalm 67:15 (Psalm 68:14 in 
English, Psalm 68:15 in Hebrew)

In Ezekiel 10:5, it is transliterated SADDAI 

Codex Alexandrinus has IKANOS in Ezekiel 1:24

In Job 29:5, another text read in the LXX "When I was fruitful" instead of 
the Hebrew "When Shaddai was yet with me"

In Job 31:35 another text in the LXX reads "if I had not feared the hand of 
the Lord" instead of the Hebrew "Let Shaddai answer me"

In Job 37:23 another text in the LXX reads "we do not find another like his 
strength" instead of the Hebrew "Shaddai, we cannot find him"

I hope this helps your query. 


Prof. Kevin W. Woodruff, M.Div., M.S.I.S.
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Subject: [b-hebrew] almighty?


To make a long story short, I was reading a commentary on Psalm 91 that 
argued that שַׁדַּי $DY should be translated in such a way that it 
demonstrates God's bounty. I was curious to see how it was translated in the 
Septuagint so I looked it up. I was surprised to find that it was rarely 
translated at all. Usually, the authors substituted God or Lord. Is there 
some reason for this? Was שַׁדַּי considered too holy to translate or 
something?
Sincerely,
Michael Abernathy
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So from what I get from all this is that the word NGD is like the word $M
Just as $M has two distict meanings dependent on how it is used ("there"
and "name") so does NGD

I now have another question regarding this word:

When it is first used in Genesis in the context of Eve I was always
taught that it meant "opposite" or "against".
I have never heard that it meant "in front of".
So could someone please explain how the idea of "in front of" fits in
that passage?

By the way, I appreciate all the input received thus far!

B"H
John Steven

"If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as you
behave."
-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.


K Randolph wrote:

>John:
>
>I do not list "against" or "opposite" as possible meanings for NGD as
>those have connotations that go beyond the meaning of the Hebrew word
>(a translator may use those terms when he thinks it will make for a
>smoother English rendition, but a strict literal meaning is "before,
>in front of").
>
>The verbal meaning of NGD is "to be in front of, to be before" which
>in the hiphil with its causative becomes "to cause to be in front of"
>or in smoother English "to set before". That which is set before can
>be a person or object, but by far the most common things "caused to be
>in front of" are ideas, teachings, or other intangible (spoken)
>concepts. According to a concordance, it is used only in the
>causative, hiphil and hophal, in Tanakh.
>
>Karl W. Randolph.
>
>On 7/24/07, Brak <Brak AT neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I have a question.
>>
>>Sometimes NGD is translated as "against" or "opposite" or "in front", to
>>which I can see the relationship between.
>>But other times it's translated as "tell" or "declare".
>>
>>I don't see the common link between the idea of "opposite" and "telling".
>>Can someone please help me understand the relationship between these ideas.
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>B"H
>>John Steven
>>
>>"If you don't behave as you believe, you will end by believing as you
>>behave."
>>-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
>>
>>
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