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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas
- From: Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org>
- To: "Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas
- Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:59:56 +0100
On 09/04/2007 17:41, Lisbeth S. Fried wrote:
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Your translation in fact looks quite similar in its English verb formsThat is as it should be, it seems to me.
to the scholarly translation NRSV, and indeed to the traditional KJV.
That is not to say that these translators did not have presuppositions,
but perhaps that they did not allow those presuppositions to control
their translation, and still less to control their understanding of the
Hebrew verb system.
Indeed.
...
As for 40:1, I don't see a Qatal. Do you mean another verse?
Sorry, I meant 40:2.
Perhaps a better example of QATAL from a future deictic viewpoint in Isaiah (but not Deutero-) is 8:23-9:1 (English 9:1-2), where the QATAL is explicitly about future events as indicated by HA'AXARON. Or do you take this as past as well?
Of course if you try to claim that all prophecies are in fact past you will find people accusing you of presupposing that there is no genuine predictive prophecy (and even that the prophets made no attempt to predict the future) and allowing this presupposition to control your exegesis and your understanding of the Hebrew verb system.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Steve Miller, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Ken Penner, 04/09/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas, Rolf Furuli, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Peter Kirk, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Peter Kirk, 04/09/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas, Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Peter Kirk, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Rolf Furuli, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Peter Kirk, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Rolf Furuli, 04/10/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas, Peter Kirk, 04/10/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas, Yitzhak Sapir, 04/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Rolf Furuli, 04/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Peter Kirk, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Peter Kirk, 04/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] translations of important quotes using Rolf's ideas,
Ken Penner, 04/09/2007
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