Biblical Hebrew Forum

["K Randolph" <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>]

Chris:

I don't have the Masoretic points before me, but the consonantal text
could be pointed more than one way. Depending on the pointing, the
root could be either XWL or XLL, with the context giving the deciding
vote on which root to choose. Obviously the root indicated by the
pointing results in nonsense, therefore a different pointing ought be
considered.

I read this as a passive from the root XLL, a reading that not only
fits grammatically, but the context as well. Either we are dealing
with a corrupted transmission of the tradition, or an irregular verb
with a unique vowel pattern.

Karl W. Randolph.

On 1/2/07, Chris and Nel <wattswestmaas AT eircom.net> wrote:
> Hallo Karl, I am sorry but I am even more confused.  In even-shoshan and
> Davidson the root for this verb 'cholalti' is given as Chet-vav-lamed, which
> did also surprise me.  I do not see that the root chet-lamed-lamed' as you
> suggest how it follows?  Maybe I am mis-reading your root?  But all the
> books are pointing to the chet vav lamed root, as I said this also surprises
> me.
>
> Regards
> Chris.
>
> > Chris:
> >
> > On 1/1/07, Chris and Nel <wattswestmaas AT eircom.net> wrote:
> >> Stumbling accross psalm 51:7 I am perplexed ...
> >>
> >> 1.  Is this just idiomatic?  Twisting and turning in pain for example
> >> came
> >> also to mean "brought forth"?
> >>
> > The verb here is XLL ??? in a passive voice. It has the meaning of
> > making common with a derivative sense of production.
> >
> > It is neither from XWL ??? to turn around vigorously as in a dance nor
> > XYL ??? to writhe as in pain, a very forceful action.
> >
> >> 2.  I would like to understand rather simply how the yod and vav are
> >> interchangeable since most hollow verbs follow an either/or pattern.
> >>
> > The waw and yod are often used as materes lectionis, and sometimes
> > not. When one reads the text without points, yods can pop up where one
> > expects waws and visa versa, or neither will appear when one is
> > expected, or one or the other appears where none is expected. It all
> > makes for rather interesting reading.
> >
> >> Thankyou
> >>
> >> Chris.
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
>
>
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