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["YODAN" <yodanco AT yodanco.com>]

I wholeheartedly agree.  I too find it offensive and have now removed it
from the subject line. Thank you!

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[mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Gershman
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:03 AM
To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org; K Randolph
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen. 2:16-17 :: idiom or clumsy lie

Dear List,
Insofar as we are continuing this stream, could we possibly rename it to
remove the term "lie?"  I find it offensive.
Sincerely,
Art Gershman
Ben Zoma said: Who is wise?  Those who learn from all people.  Pirkei Avot
4:1
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  From: K Randolph<mailto:kwrandolph AT gmail.com> 
  To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org<mailto:b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Gen. 2:16-17 :: idiom or clumsy lie


  Isaac:

  On 12/3/06, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu<mailto:if AT math.bu.edu>> wrote:
  > Adam's fate is sealed in Gen 4.1: And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she
  > conceived, and bare Cain. The power of procreation is a sure sign for
  > a certain demise. Where there is birth  there is death---it can not
  > be otherwise.
  > ---Isaac Fried

  That is not a given. While it is true today, was it so prior to
  Genesis 3? The context of the narration indicates that that is not so.

  We should not take our situation and project it onto a situation other
  than ours. The context is that rebelling would introduce death, an
  action that did not exist prior to rebellion, as made explicit in the
  understanding of the first century Jews who wrote the New Testament.

  Karl W. Randolph.
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