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- From: "Yonah Mishael" <yonahmishael AT gmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton
- Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:23:47 -0500
The Latin Vulgate, the common Bible of the time among Christians, did
not transliterate the Name. Instead the Latin uses the title Dominus
("the Lord"). Thus, when scholars began to go back into the Hebrew and
Greek of the Christian Bible and look to translate them into other
languages, they ran into the problem of what to do with God's proper
name. Jews say "HaShem" or "Adonai" (some, "Adoshem"), but Christians
did not feel compelled to follow Jewish tradition, and they tried to
reproduce how it was pronounced. This manner of reproduction simply
follows the Massoretic vowels of )DNY instead of attempting to
reconstruct it based on the letters involved.
I am not in favor of any reconstructions of God's name. I think we
should do what we can to revere the Name, and this includes not
following half-baked ideas of how to pronounce it.
Yonah
2006/8/22, Shoshanna Walker <rosewalk AT concentric.net>:
You mean to say - that in 1520, someone who was called Galatinus,
decided, that he knew what was not known for thousands of years by
the People who were given the Torah by the Creator of the Universe,
and everyone (except for the Jews, of course) said - ok, thanks for
letting us know???
Is this for real?
Shoshanan
>
>Dave writes,
>
>The editors of the Brown-Driver-Briggs Lexicon write:
>The pronunciation Jehovah was unknown until 1520 when it was introduced
>by Galatinus; but it was contested by Le Mercier, J. Drusius, and L.
>Capellus, as against grammatical and historical propriety.
>On page 311 of the article "JEHOVAH (YAHWEH)" in the Encyclopedia
>Britannica of 1911, the editors write:
>The form Jehovah was used in the 16th century by many authors, both
>Catholic and Protestant, and in the 17th was zealously defended by
>Fuller, Gataker [1574-1654], Leusden and others, against the criticisms
>of such scholars as Drusius, Cappellus and the elder Buxtorf.
>I would recommend that you take a look at the Wikipedia Article:Yahweh,
>which covers both the pronunciation "Jehovah" and the pronunciation
>"Yahweh" in considerable detail:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
>
>Check out Section # 2 and section # 2.1 which go into considerable detail
>about the scholarly criticism of the name "Jehovah", which started as
>early as the first half of the 17th century.
>
>Sections # 5 through sections # 10 discuss Gesenius's scholarly
>reconstruction YaH:WeH, which he proposed in the early 19th century,
>after scholars had rejected the legitimacy of the vowel points of
>"(Y)Jehovah"
>
>
>Dave Donnelly
>
>------Original Message------
>From: "Edward Andrews" <edandrews AT adelphia.net>
>Sent: Tue Aug 22 10:18:18 EDT 2006
>Subject: [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton
>
>To All:
>
>
>I have chosen not to engage the scholars of this website, but have chosen
>to follow the arguments, discussions and helpful sources.
>However, at this time, I would like to pose a question that concerns the
>history of the Tetragrammaton.
>I have studied some things through and wish to list some persons and
>publications without providing the findings, to see what will come about
>naturally.
>I am tracking the pronunciation "Jehovah." In all of this, what was
>started by Drusius and spread by Capella as a historical fact and is
>still very much apart of the scholarly community today?
>
>
>Peter Galatin [Petrus Galatinus; Pietro Colonna Galatino]
>
>Paulus Fagius [Paul Buechelin] (1504-1549)
>
>Johann Reuchlin [Capito]
>
>Drusius (Van Der Driesche; Johann Clemens] (155-1616)
>
>Ludovicus Capellus (Louis Cappel] (1585-1658)
>
>Cappel' Critica Sacra (1634)
>
>Botcher 1866
>
>The Oxford Gesenius (1892-100)
>
>Buhl (1899)
>
>James Hastings (1899)
>
>Joseph B. Rotherham (1902) The Emphasized Bible
>
>Brown-Driver-Briggs (1906)
>
>The Jewish Encyclopedia (1907)
>
>
>Edward Andrews
>
--
Yonah Mishael ben Avraham
Joplin, MO
yonahmishael AT gmail.com
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[b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton,
David P Donnelly, 08/22/2006
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[b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton,
Pawel Sajdek, 08/22/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton,
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton, Yigal Levin, 08/22/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton, Yonah Mishael, 08/23/2006
- [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton, Pawel Sajdek, 08/23/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton,
Edward Andrews, 08/22/2006
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[b-hebrew] Tetragrammaton,
Pawel Sajdek, 08/22/2006
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