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For one the LXX reads "KAI ESESQE hWS QEOI."   Which supports the plural 
rendering of elohim.

But it seems to me that since yd` is a plural participle, that it is 
modifying elohim and therefore the angels are in view.
--
Kelton Graham 
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From: schmuel <schmuel AT nyc.rr.com> 

> Hi Folks, 
> 
> Genesis 3:5 (KJB) 
> For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, 
> then your eyes shall be opened, 
> and ye shall be as gods, 
> knowing good and evil. 
> 
> Surprisingly we apparently have not discussed this verse. 
> 
> Many translations have the second Elohim as "God", singular, although 
> much traditional Jewish exegesis (Targumim, Ibn Ezra, perhaps Rashi) 
> supports 
> the plural non-Deity usage of elohim, which was followed by Geneva and the 
> King James Bible. Also many Jewish Bibles today (e.g. Soncino, JPS) as well 
> as Fox. (I am especially curious about notes in ArtScroll and Living Torah, 
> and moderately interested in others, like Alter's translation here). 
> 
> Do you see anything special in the Hebrew that leans toward one 
> translation or another ? Granted there are a lot of various doctrinal 
> aspects that could be offered, I don't mind hearing those either :-) 
> 
> Any thoughts ? 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Shalom, 
> Steven Avery 
> Queens, NY 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic 
> 
> 
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Never thougt of that before.

The plural noun and verb both point to "gods" as meant, as if in polytheism.

Karl W. Randolp.

On 8/17/06, schmuel <schmuel AT nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Genesis 3:5 (KJB)
> For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof,
> then your eyes shall be opened,
> and ye shall be as gods,
> knowing good and evil.
>
>    Surprisingly we apparently have not discussed this verse.
>
>    Many translations have the second Elohim as "God", singular, although
> much traditional Jewish exegesis (Targumim, Ibn Ezra, perhaps Rashi)
> supports
> the plural non-Deity usage of elohim, which was followed by Geneva and the
> King James Bible.  Also many Jewish Bibles today (e.g. Soncino, JPS) as
> well
> as Fox.  (I am especially curious about notes in ArtScroll and Living
> Torah,
> and moderately interested in others, like Alter's translation here).
>
>     Do you see anything special in the Hebrew that leans toward one
> translation or another ?  Granted there are a lot of various doctrinal
> aspects that could be offered, I don't mind hearing those either :-)
>
>     Any thoughts ?
>     Thanks.
>
> Shalom,
> Steven Avery
> Queens, NY
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic