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- From: "JAMES CHRISTIAN READ" <JCR128 AT student.apu.ac.uk>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] "I Am" vs. "I Will Be"
- Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:29:51 +0100
Peter's evidence as to the meaning 'I was, I am and I
always will be' is rather convincing and I tend to agree
with him.
Where I disagree with Peter is that based on this meaning
'I am' is the best translation. The reason I disagree is
that while it is true that the present simple is used
in English to convery *actions* that happen both in the
past, present and future (e.g. I work as a...) this is
*not* the primary usage of the present simple of the
verb 'to be' which usually refers to temporary states
(e.g. 'I'm over here', 'I'm back') but can also refer
to permanent states which are implied to be permanent
by the cultural context (e.g. 'I'm a boy', 'I'm black'
etc). It is completely clear that neither 'I am' nor
'I will be' will ever capture the fulness of what we
have come to understand by this phrase and an
insistence on performing the outdated grammatical
translation from one verb form to another verb form is
never going to suffice. While something like 'I am
[eternal]' seems to capture the essence while some
feel it an offensive translation as it requires the
'addition' of a word but not the 'addition' of a
concept.
It is exactly for examples like these that it is that I
insist that concept translation is of far more value
than any form of grammatical translation. In order to
translate such a concept in English it is necessary to
do an empirical analysis of the English language in its
entirety and ask the question 'What would be the normal
thing to say be for a person who wishes to express his
belief that he has always existed and always will
exist?'
As for the apparent contradiction in context translation
it is quite clear that yah was not only telling Moshe
that would be with him but that he was also with him
in that moment. Again, English lacks a suitable verb
form to verb form translation for such a concept and
neither 'I am with you' nor 'I will be with you' are
ever going to capture the fullness of the original
hebrew while 'because I am with and I will stay with
you' starts to get a little closer to the mark. Yes!
This breaks the principle of translating verb form for
verb form. But how important is it to stick to such an
unjustifiably rigourous rule? Is it worth losing the
meaning of the original text?mpirical analysis of the English language in its
entirety and ask the question 'What would be the normal
thing to say be for a person who wishes to express his
belief that he has always existed and always will
exist?'
As for the apparent contradiction in context translation
it is quite clear that yah was not only telling Moshe
that would be with him but that he was also w
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[b-hebrew] "I Am" vs. "I Will Be",
JAMES CHRISTIAN READ, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] "I Am" vs. "I Will Be", Peter Kirk, 06/30/2006
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