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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?
- From: Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org>
- To: Ken Penner <ken.penner AT acadiau.ca>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?
- Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:19:47 +0100
On 29/06/2006 17:42, Ken Penner wrote:
Peter wrote:Ken, you obviously know much more than I do about Hebrew from the Hellenistic period. Perhaps I went too far in suggesting that the change to a tensed language was completed during this period. I can point you to many authorities, from Gesenius to Furuli, who agree that biblical Hebrew was aspectual. It is well known that modern Hebrew is tensed. I have certainly seen it suggested that this change goes back to the Hellenistic period, but maybe at that period it was only partial. Perhaps you would care to enlighten us further about what these verb forms actually meant in Hellenistic times.
Indeed, but getting (probably) even closer in time to the original, the LXX is EGW EIMI hO WN "I am the being (one)", all present tenses. This is because, according to many, Hebrew changed from being aspectual to being tensed during the Hellenistic period, from the influence of Greek. Early in this period, when LXX was translated, the original aspectual sense was still understood. By several centuries later, the time of Theodotion and Aquila, the aspectual sense was being lost and the verbs were being understood as future tense forms.
Can you provide references for these "many" who claim Hebrew changed from being aspectual to tensed in the Hellenistic period? Can you trace the sources for these claims? The reason I ask is that to my knowledge, the major study the translation of the tenses in the LXX concludes that the Hebrew verb forms were not tenses or aspects but moods at the time of translation.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, Rolf Furuli, 06/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Awohili, 06/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, Yitzhak Sapir, 06/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Awohili, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Shoshanna Walker, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, stoneyb, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?, Har1marjohn, 06/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Also asking a question - Re: YHWH is Aramaic?,
Peter Kirk, 06/29/2006
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