Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

Dear Karl,

> Don't you see that by agreeing here, you have
> undercut your insistence that Genesis 8:22 mentions
> resuming the cycle of seasons that existed prior to
> the flood?


HH: Genesis 8:22 does not even mention the word "season." Agreement 
with you about the meaning of the English word "season" undermines 
nothing because the issue is the meaning of the Hebrew word MW(D, not 
the English word "season." Arguments about the meaning of Genesis 
8:22 are sustained in many other ways. The fact is that Jeremiah 8:7 
is talking about a season. Bird migrations occurs over periods of 
time involving months, not just days. So "season" is an appropriate 
term to use to describe the times of bird migration. "Season" is, in 
fact, a term used with respect to bird migration.


> As for the rest of the message, I won't bother to
> reply to it. I have already discussed in detail why
> I disagree with you, I see no reason to bore the
> list with repeating myself.


HH: I don't know if you read the rest of my previous post to 
B-Hebrew, but others will read it and see that my arguments are 
strong and have solid grounding . The Dead Sea Scrolls and other 
Hebrew documents are where the Dictionary of Classical Hebrew gets 
proof that MW(D refers to seasons. The interpretative material I gave 
you shows that my view of Gen 8:22 is the standard view and not 
idiosyncratic.

HH: Here are some sample links from Google showing that "season" is 
used of bird migration:


GLRC
MIGRATION SEASON BRINGS BIRD FLU WORRIES. view full size image. Julie 
Craves stands in the area where she sets up mist nets during 
migration to catch land ...
www.glrc.org/story.php3?story_id=2982 - 44k - Cached - Similar pages

The Mystery of Bird Migration - article for people interesting in ...
And although we have learned much, there is so much more that we are 
learning each migration season. Fall migration allows birds to move 
to a different ...
birding.about.com/library/weekly/aa032898.htm - 38k - Cached - Similar pages

Migration of Birds
The Canada Goose affords a typical example of regular but slow 
migration. Its advance northward is at the same rate as the advance 
of the season (Figure 5). ...
www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/migratio/speed.htm - 18k - Cached - 
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BIRD MIGRATION: Evolution
BIRD MIGRATION: Evolution ambience: Dawn Chorus, bird calls. This 
season, literally billions of birds will migrate in search of a 
winter habitat with an ...
www.pulseplanet.com/archive/Sep99/1974.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

Canada Goose Information: Nesting Season, Molting Season ...
For information about nesting, molting and migration of the Canada 
goose, ... Autumn Migration Season:. Once they have regrown their 
flight feathers in the ...
www.wildgoosechasers.com/gooseinfo.php - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

NJDEP Division of Fish & Wildlife - 2005-06 Migratory Bird Season ...
2005-06 Migratory Bird Season - Information and Population Status - 
An ... Serious damage to agriculture also occurs in migration and 
wintering areas. ...
www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/artmigratory05.htm - 24k - Cached - Similar pages

Spring migration season has France on edge - Health & Science ...
The French bird flu outbreak provides the strongest suggestion yet 
that migration is part of the problem. ... Spring migration season 
has France on edge ...
www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/01/news/birds.php - 37k - Cached - Similar pages

National Geographic News @ nationalgeographic.com
Season, of course, is the biggest factor in bird migration. But 
second is weather, and particularly wind direction. Optimum 
conditions for northbound ...
news.nationalgeographic.com/ news/2000/11/1106_migration.html - 34k - 
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Bird Migration Materials Needed, Rationale, Instructional ...
How does weather affect bird migration? birds follow different air 
patterns which change with the season. Problems encountered while 
migrating ...
www.outfitters.com/~tom/ scimath97/featherfriends/MIGRATE.HTM - 8k - 
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Yours,
Harold Holmyard

> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: "Harold Holmyard" <hholmyard AT ont.com>
> >  ...
> >  > As I claim, words have a circle of meaning, for some their area
> >  > is great, for others their range of meaning can be very
> >  > restricted.
> >  >
> >  > The word "season" even in English has a range of meaning, not
> >  > just the seasons (summer, fall, etc.). Poetically it is used for
> >  > much shorter periods, such as the "season to be jolly" which,
> >  > according to tradition, lasted 12 days, or the "Easter season"
> >  > which lasted 8 days.  Thus, even if you use "season" in Jeremiah
> >  > 8:7, it does not necessarily correspond to the seasons as in
> >  > summer, fall, etc.
> >  >
> >  >
>  > HH: This only helps my argument. It does not hurt it in any way.
> >