Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

This is a term we have discussed before.

While I agree with Rolf that there is a core meaning 
(though the concept of "hiddenness" is brought out by 
the Hiphil, not Qal, indicating that it is a derived, not core 
meaning), translation is a different matter.

>From the different contexts, it is clear that the term has a 
broad meaning, referring to an indeterminate span of time 
whose end is not expected to be known at the time 
spoken, which can include eternity as the end of the span 
of time in unknowable because it never ends. While to the 
ancient Hebrew, when he heard the term (WLM he had no 
problem with the concept, a modern listener in English 
would not understand as we have no such term, nor even 
concept, in the English language. Instead we have 
different terms to refer to different sub-meanings within 
(WLM.

As a translator or reader of a translation, where there is 
such a disconnect between the language translated from 
to the language translated to, I consider it translator 
malpractice not to use different terms where appropriate. 
Of course, sometimes that results in some judgment calls, 
but so be it. That's why scholars learn the original 
languages.

Karl W. Randolph.


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Gardner" <g_gardner1234 AT yahoo.com>
> 
> 
>                      Dave Washburn dwashbur at nyx.net
> Sat Feb 4 19:14:40 EST 2006
>    stated:
> 
> 
> What else would it be?  Gene:
>   I was just looking for a different perspective, after reading the 
> NWT translation of Daniel 12:2:
> 
> 
>    2 And there will be many of those asleep in the ground of dust 
> who will wake up, these to indefinitely lasting life and those to 
> reproaches [and] to indefinitely lasting abhorrence.
> 
> 
>    Here is their translation of Gen 21:
> 
> 
>    33 After that he planted a tamarisk tree at Be´er-she´ba and 
> called there upon the name of Jehovah the indefinitely lasting God.
> 
> 
>   Maybe it is a theological bias.
> 
> 
> 

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