Biblical Hebrew Forum

[David P Donnelly <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>]

Peter Kirk asks:

>>>
In that case, where did the long O sound come from? 
This would not be inserted for purely phonetic reasons. 
It is surely derived from the W in YHWH, 
perhaps via an intermediate form in which the W was consonantal 
e.g. Yahweyaqim.
>>>

I hope my next question is not too dumb.

Is the prefix "YFH." compounded with "YFQIYM" 
by the insertion of a "holem waw" between "YFH." and "YFQIYM".

If it is,  the "O" sound is simply the sound of the "holem waw" being
used in the compounding process.

The "O" sound would not be derived from the "W" in "YHWH",
it would be derived from the "holem waw" introduced in the compounding
process.

Again I hope my question and my analysis is not too dumb.

Dave Donnelly 
 
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That sounds reasonable, Yigal.  If YHWH was indeed the Hiph'il of HWH I 
would have expected it to have  been YeHAWA and I can understand a shift to 
"YEHO" in theophoric use if we factor in Aramaic usage where alaha is aloho.

Jack

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Theophoric name: Y:HOWYFQIYM


> Dear Dave,
>
> I stayed out of the last round on the pronunciation of God's name, and I
> will this time as well. I'll just say that I assume that the Waw in YHWH 
> was
> consonantal, and later shifted to a vowel sound.
>
> Yigal
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David P Donnelly" <davedonnelly1 AT juno.com>
> To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:28 PM
> Subject: [b-hebrew] Theophoric name: Y:HOWYFQIYM
>
>
>> In answer to my question about the theophoric name:Y:HOWYFQIYM,
>> Vigel Levin wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>> Dear Dave,
>>
>> The answer is yes. Just like in Yehonatan (Jonathan), Yehoram (Joram),
>> Yehoahaz and a dozen other names.
>>
>> Yigal
>>>>>
>>
>> Yigal,
>>
>> Does your answer indicate that the change of the "qamets" in YFH.
>> to a simple shewa in the resulting Theophoric Hebrew name,
>> [as well as in any of the other 16-17 Theophoric names beginning in
>> "Jeho"]
>> depends only on the fact that the Hebrew word "YFH. was used in the
>> compounding,
>> and  has nothing to do with what the actual pronunciation of God's name
>> may be?
>>
>> Dave Donnelly
>>
>>
>>
>>> Has this Compound Hebrew name been created by adding the prefix YFH.
>>> (via a holem waw)
>>> to YFQIYM
>>> and in the process the "qamets" in YFH.
>>> has become the simple shewa in Y:HOWYFQIYM
>>>
>>> Dave Donnelly
>>
>>
>> Dear Dave,
>>
>> The answer is yes. Just like in Yehonatan (Jonathan), Yehoram (Joram),
>> Yehoahaz and a dozen other names.
>>
>> Yigal
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