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- From: Peter Kirk <peter AT qaya.org>
- To: "Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle
- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 00:15:49 +0100
On 28/10/2005 22:23, Harold R. Holmyard III wrote:
Dear Karl,
> HH: It's believed to be a different word in Hebrew, from a different
> root having to do with what is split, pierced, or slit.
Where's the evidence for such a root? What other words
is that alternate root used in?
... This root was recognized when BDB was put together; it mentions an Arabic cognate meaning to "perforate, pierce, slit the partition between the nostrils, or the lip, or the lobe of the ear." The Dictionary of Classical Hebrew also recognizes the root, as do translations (NET, HCSB).
It is worth pointing out, even though no doubt Karl will be sceptical in view of his comments on ayin and ghayin, that there is good evidence for these being separate roots in that they have Arabic cognates with different spellings. The Arabic cognate of the word meaning "devote, destroy" is حرم starting with the Arabic letter hah (as in "haram" meaning "unclean"), whereas the Arabic cognate of the word meaning "perforate, pierce" etc is خرم starting with the Arabic letter khah, note the extra dot which indicates a velar or uvular fricative rather than a pharyngeal fricative. It is a regular rule that both of these Arabic letters correspond to Hebrew het, and indeed they were probably pronounced differently in Hebrew at the time when the Bible was written, in the same way as ayin and ghayin were probably pronounced differently.
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Peter Kirk
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[b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
tladatsi, 10/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/28/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, kgraham0938, 10/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Karl Randolph, 10/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Peter Kirk, 10/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Peter Kirk, 10/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/28/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Karl Randolph, 10/28/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Karl Randolph, 10/29/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Peter Kirk, 10/29/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Karl Randolph, 10/29/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Peter Kirk, 10/29/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Peter Kirk, 10/31/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Peter Kirk, 10/31/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle,
Karl Randolph, 10/31/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Lev 21:18 - Passive Participle, Peter Kirk, 10/31/2005
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