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Re: [b-hebrew] Illustration of a "winged" Yahweh-Elohim (Iron Age II)
- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: walter mattfeld <mattfeld12 AT charter.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Illustration of a "winged" Yahweh-Elohim (Iron Age II)
- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:58:07 +0100
On 22/08/2005 10:57, walter mattfeld wrote:
A possible (?) image of a "winged" Yahweh-Elohim (Iron Age II) is available. cf.This iconography largely related to worship of El by Canaanites, repeatedly condemned in the Tanakh as idolaters. Any link to YHWH or Elohim is highly speculative. I note the following which you quote concerning the only image with any link to YHWH:
the below url if interested:
http://www.bibleorigins.net/WingedYahwehElohim.html
the Hebrew inscription seems to have been added later on and is not clearly distinguishable, reading a highly doubtful yh[y]hw[s]lm (Uehlinger, 1993:275). Furthermore, the seal is unique in its iconography and thus should be used cautiously for far-reaching conclusions
As for Yehimilk of Byblos, what is the actual spelling of his name? The inscriptions of Yehimilk and Shiftibaal at http://www.proel.org/alfabetos/feniarca.html (about half way down) give a clear spelling yod-het-mem-lamed-kaf, and the inscription of Elibaal confirms a second letter het. If this is true, the second letter het completely rules out any link to YHWH, and instead indicates a probable meaning of "Long live the king!", an appropriate throne name. Walter, I am surprised at you for making such an elementary mistake.
Yehawmilk is it seems a separate and much later character, of the 5th-4th centuries BCE. See http://www.bu.edu/anep/ANET.html for an English translation of the text of the relevant stela, but unfortunately not giving the Phoenician spelling. The only picture of this stela which I can find is at your own site, Walter, http://www.bibleorigins.net/asherimpillardjed.html, but unfortunately you have cut off the actual inscription part. Are you able to tell us the actual Phoenician spelling of this king's name?
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[b-hebrew] Illustration of a "winged" Yahweh-Elohim (Iron Age II),
walter mattfeld, 08/22/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Illustration of a "winged" Yahweh-Elohim (Iron Age II), Peter Kirk, 08/22/2005
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