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- From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
- To: Christopher.Heard AT pepperdine.edu
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26
- Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:29:00 -0400
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:10:21 -0700 "Heard, Christopher"
<Christopher.Heard AT pepperdine.edu> writes:
> I am working through Ezekiel and I am not sure how to take the phrase
>
> ???? ??? [GDLY B&R] "those being great of flesh" in Ezekiel
> 16:26. It's clear enough from the context that the speaker is
> referring to male genitalia, and the use of ??? [B&R] in Ezekiel
>
> 23:20 confirms this. However, I am not sure whether to understand
> ???? ??? [GDLY B&R] as a reference simply to large genitalia
>
> per se, or to _enlarged_ genitalia, that is, erections. NIV, NRSV,
> and JPS all take it in the latter sense, and translate it as
> "lustful." The LXX has a fairly literalistic translation,
> ?e?a??s????? [MEGALOSARKOS], "big-fleshed." Neither the
>
> Hebrew word-pair nor the Greek word appear elsewhere in the Tanakh
> or
> LXX, so I don't have any comparative data there to work with. Does
> anyone know of any good evidence, e.g. uses of the Hebrew phrase or
>
> Greek word in extra-biblical sources, or similar phrases in cognate
>
> languages, that would help me solidify this translation, or is it an
>
> irreducible ambiguity? Anybody know why NIV, NRSV, JPS read this as
>
> they do?
> --
> R. Christopher Heard
> Assistant Professor of Religion
> Pepperdine University
> Malibu, California 90263-4352
> http://faculty.pepperdine.edu/cheard
> http://www.iTanakh.org
> http://www.semioticsandexegesis.info
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The phrase WaT.:F:Y"K: )eT_RaG:LaYiK: "you spread your legs" in the
preceding verse would seem to imply a sexual activity and thus an erect
penis would seem to be referenced. I somewhat doubt that the prophet
would have been concerned with the mere physical size of their genitalia
aside from the reason for its size.
george
gfsomsel
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[b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26,
Heard, Christopher, 07/30/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26,
Ben Crick, 07/31/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, Peter Kirk, 07/31/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26,
George F Somsel, 07/30/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, Heard, Christopher, 07/30/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, Jim West, 07/30/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, kenneth hoglund, 07/30/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/31/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, Harold R. Holmyard III, 07/31/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26, Peter Kirk, 07/31/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Translating Ezekiel 16:26,
Ben Crick, 07/31/2005
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