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@Rolf:

Hey how is it going?  I did not say that my view was the only possible,  I 
was just explaining why I hold it, and why I think that many translators keep 
it as I AM who I AM instead of I will be who I will be.  If I am not mistaken 
even HALOT [Hebrew and Aramiac Lexicon of the Old Testament] has I shall 
prove to be who I will prove to be as an option, so I by no means am saying 
that it is impossible.  I just don't think it answers Moses' question.

Ok I got to run, you can write me back later if you want.

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Kelton Graham 
KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net

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> Dear Kelton, 
> 
> I see the logic in your reasonings, but your conclusions are not the 
> only ones possible. To know the name of someone did not only mean for 
> the Hebrews to know the letters of the name or how it was pronounced. It 
> is obvious that when God said to Moses: "I know you by name" (Ex 33:12), 
> it meant that he knew the personality and deeds of Moses; he knew Moses 
> intimately. In Ex 34:5-7 YHWH proclaimed the name of YHWH, and that did 
> not mean that he pronounced the name, but rather that the attributes of 
> God was proclaimed. In the song of Moses it is said: "for I shall 
> declare the name of YHWH," and that includes God's dealings with 
> Israel and a description of his personality. 
> 
> When Moses asks about the name of God in Ex 3:13, there is no problem 
> with the view that YHWH first shows that he will be known as one who 
> both has a purpose and who fulfills that purpose (I will prove to be 
> what I will prove to be"), and "`I will prove to be` has sent me to 
> you." If we compare Ex 3:14 with the passages above, we see that this 
> verse alone would be a full answer to the question "What is his name?" 
> In addition, we find God's personal name in 3:15. Thus, both his purpose 
> and his personal name identify him. On this basis I see no reason to 
> use )hye with present reference in 3:14 when it in most other cases has 
> future reference. 
> 
> If Ex 3:13-15 is written to teach the readers that YHWH is a form of the 
> Hebrew verb HYH or the Aramaic verb HWH, there is a problem with the 
> grammatical persons. If YHWH is a verb, it must be third person 
> singular, but should we not expect first person singular as in )ehye? 
> 
> 
> Best regards 
> 
> Rolf Furuli 
> University of Oslo 
> 
> kgraham0938 AT comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> >@Rolf: 
> > 
> >Hey Rolf, I think the reason why many translators as well as myself 
> >translate 
> 'EH:YEH 'E$ER 'EH:YEH as I AM who I AM as opposed to I will be who I will 
> be is 
> based upon Moses' statement to YHWH in the previous verse. He says 
> > 
> >" And they will say to me what is his name? What do I say to them?" 
> > 
> >Moses:[question] What is your name? 
> >YHWH:[answer] I will be who I will be 
> > 
> >Then he goes on to say " Tell them I will be sent you." 
> > 
> >Does not make any sense. I will be who I will be does not answer the 
> >question. 
> And secondly if 'EH:YEH is a 1cs of YHWH (3ms), translated as "I will be" 
> then 
> you'd have to translate YHWH as "He will be." 
> >-- 
> >Kelton Graham 
> >KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net 
> > 
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U.Cassuto (Exodus) in his comments on Ex 5:3 (3:18) states that the
difference between qrh & qr) is orthographic only. E.Tov* and J.W. Wevers**
are not so sure. The LXX, SamPent, Peshitta, Targums, Vulgate all appear to
support the reading qr) in Ex 3:18.

Tov suggests tentatively and Wevers affirms that the LXX employed etymology
to move from qrh to qr) with the meaning to call or summon.

Cassuto identifies qrh as the language of theophany and cites some ANE
examples.

Comments?

Clay Bartholomew 
 
*Textual criticism of the Hebrew Bible / Emanuel Tov.
Minneapolis : Fortress Press ; Assen : Van Gorcum, 2001, P131.

**John W. WEVERS ,Notes on the Greek Text of Exodus (SBLSCS 30; Atlanta
1990)