Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>]

Hi Yitzhak,

The relationship between Heber and Hebron is indeed worthy of consideration.
On the other hand, the whole thing could be coincidental.
I'm not sure that I accept your premise that Judges 4 is based on Judges 5.
I know that the poem in chapter 5 is often considered to be quite old, and I
have no problem with that. However there are so many discrepancies between
the two chapters (the tribes involved, the precise place of the battle etc.)
that I would think that chapter 5 is based on an independent tradition,
which was incorporated into the (maybe pre-) deuteronomistic Judges after
chapter 4 was already written. The editor simply saw no need to harmonize
the two.
And the parallelism in 5:24 work fine without the extra ")$t".

Yigal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
To: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
Cc: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 4:11 & Joshua 15:57


> Would it be reasonable to suggest that Heber is related to Hebron, not
> far from the identified site of Qain (en-Nebi Yaqin) in Judges 5:24?
> Judges 4:11, which is based on Judges 5 could not accept such a
> southern location for Yael as he located the battle much more to the
> north, and so he explained this by having a person Heber move to
> the north.  There he is described as a small tribal family separating
> from a larger tribe.  But in Judges 5:24 the two refer to place names.
> This would also allow to divide the verse into some type of parallelism:
> tbrk mn$ym y(l )$t xbr / [ )$t ] hqyny mn$ym b)hl tbrk
>
> Yitzhak Sapir
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