Biblical Hebrew Forum

[George F Somsel <gfsomsel AT juno.com>]

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:58:45 +0100 "wattswestmaas"
<wattswestmaas AT eircom.net> writes:
> Hallo.  I am having a bit of a problem understanding the use of the 
> noun
> ATaK, for example in 1 Sam 2:3.
> 
>  Its whole meaning from the root "To remove" fig - to grow old, to
> transcribe, to copy.  Its use to designate vanity, vain glory, pride 
> and
> arrogance mystifies me and I do not have suitable references to look 
> up
> myself.  Is it not really a verbal idea anyway because of the 
> patachs?
> 
> Chris, Ireland
> 
> _______________________________________________

Your transcription implies an aleph in the 1st position when in fact it
is an Ayin.  This is an old page in that the address for the list is
incorrect, but you can find the transcription system here

http://www.ibiblio.org/bhebrew/

)aL_T.aR:B.W. T:DaB.:RW. G:BoHfH Y"+") (fTfQ MiP.iYCeM C.iY )"L D."(oWT
YHWH W:Lo) NiT:C.:NW. (a:LiLoWT

(fTfQ here is a noun from the verb (fT"q "move, proceed, advance" and
signifies arrogance.
 
george
gfsomsel
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Almah vs. Bethulah in Isaiah 7
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When reading the passages below, none (at least as I understand it) specifi=
cally refer to a virgin, in particular Isa. 62:5. This last verse indicates=
 a woman who is married, though referring to her wedding day. It is because=
 of uses like this that I understand BTWLH to refer to a young woman of mar=
riageable age, not necessarily a virgin.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: tladatsi AT charter.net
>=20
...
>=20
> The second contextual element is how the rest of the text
> handles the same issue.  Isaiah uses the word *bethulah*
> (hlwtb) in other settings where the author clearly means
> virgin (Isa 23:12, Isa 37.22, Isa 62.5).  Both of these
> contextual elements would suggest that the author of Isaiah
> had meant in 7:18 a routine birth by a young women rather
> than miraculous birth by a virgin.
--=20
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