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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:24:27 +0000
On 30/11/2004 06:55, Dave Washburn wrote:
...Dave, I suggest that you read something about Relevance Theory. Although I have some criticisms of the theory and especially how it has been applied to translation, it has thoroughly debunked the idea that meaning is encoded in form in the sense that you seem to understand here. For some of my take on Relevance Theory and links to literature, see http://www.qaya.org/academic/bibletranslation/Holy%20Communicative.zip - this paper will be published soon, but the section on Relevance Theory has been shortened for publication.
You correctly discern my real question. Based on this paragraph, I'm not sure what your definition of "meaning" is. I don't want to do a Clinton here, but it seems to me that you're defining "means" in a somewhat different way than several others here do. So I could do with some clarification so I can follow you correctly. If "meaning" is not something uncancelable, what are the circumstances in which (by which?) that "meaning" of a form may be canceled? If sequence is encoded in the verb form, how does a speaker or writer get around that? If meaning is something other than something encoded in the form, what exactly is it, and if it's not a hard-and-fast feature of the form, how can we discern that it's there at all? These sorts of questions are at the heart of my research, and I anxiously await your input.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 11/27/2004
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[b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
B. M. Rocine, 11/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Rolf Furuli, 11/27/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Peter Kirk, 11/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
B. M. Rocine, 11/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Rolf Furuli, 11/28/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Peter Kirk, 11/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Dave Washburn, 11/29/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
B. M. Rocine, 11/29/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Dave Washburn, 11/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Peter Kirk, 11/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Dave Washburn, 11/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Peter Kirk, 11/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Dave Washburn, 11/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's, Peter Kirk, 11/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Dave Washburn, 11/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
B. M. Rocine, 11/29/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Rolf Furuli, 11/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
Rolf Furuli, 11/27/2004
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[b-hebrew] 998 non-past wyyqtl's,
B. M. Rocine, 11/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 11/27/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses, Dave Washburn, 11/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses,
Peter Kirk, 11/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 11/27/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses, Peter Kirk, 11/28/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] The perspective of this native speaker of Modern Hebrew of Biblical Hebrew tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 11/27/2004
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