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- From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
- To: gfsomsel AT juno.com
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- Subject: Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:00:38 -0800 (PST)
gfsomsel AT juno.com wrote:
...It is a moot point if there even was an Exodus as depicted in the
Pentateuch. The housing styles and the pottery reflect an unbroken
sequence which would tend to indicate that there was no influx of a
foreign element into the land. It would seem that Israel was an
indigenous people of the country. ..."
This point, the absence of new pottery assemblies in IA I has been
mentioned often as proof of lack of outside newcomers in the highlands .
However pottery resembling the one in the highlands of Cis-Jordan was also
found in Moab.
Further, both Albright (if one may be forgiven for mentioning the name in
a modern list) and Finkelstein long after him, pointed out that when less
developed groups such as nomads settle down among more devloped population,
the former will adopt the the higher technology.
There are other points, but all taken together are neither archaeological
proof , in my view, nor a refutation of outside settlers. The case is still
open.
Uri
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Marianne:
Why would Israel seek shelter within Aravis when the whole point was to fle=
e the oppression brought on them by the Hyksos? If I were oppressed, and th=
en my oppressor was distracted by an attack by another enemy, that would be=
a prime time to get the ... out of there, not hide myself among my oppress=
ors. It doesn't make sense.
However, the picture given in Exodus shows no signs of coming war, so I sus=
pect that when the Hyksos lost a pharaoh and an army chasing their wayward =
ex-slaves, that this was the signal for Ahmose to launch his campaign befor=
e the Hyksos had a chance to recover. But the part about Ahmose is speculat=
ion on my part.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: MarianneLuban AT aol.com
>=20
...
>=20
> Regardless, I wrote that if there were any of Jacob's tribe=20
> living in the north of Egypt at the time when it was attacked by Ahmose, =
the=20
> Theban prince, they would have surely sought shelter within the fortified=
city=20
> of Avaris-- of the legendary great walls--, in the eastern Delta, once th=
ey=20
> found out that Ahmose was "on the water", as his army came on the Nile. =
And=20
> been expelled with the rest once Avaris fell.
--=20
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
gfsomsel, 11/18/2004
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/18/2004
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
- Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Uri Hurwitz, 11/18/2004
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
gfsomsel, 11/18/2004
- Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
gfsomsel, 11/18/2004
- Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Peter Kirk, 11/18/2004
- Fwd: Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/, Uri Hurwitz, 11/18/2004
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Re: Date of Moses, was: [b-hebrew] Re: PS /g/,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/18/2004
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