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- From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
- To: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?
- Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 07:40:30 +0200
The existence of Jerusalem as a city, which is the center of a political
unit of some kind, is attested as far back as the 19th century, and
certainly in the Amarna letters. However in the Iron Age, the first
extra-biblical mention of Jerusalem appears in the very same sentence as
does Judah, in Sennacherib's description of his campaign to the west in 701.
If you're talking about the Bible, the context makes it very clear when it's
referring to a city and when it means a "land".
Yigal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Roberts" <formoria AT carolina.rr.com>
To: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
Cc: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?
> So, could the search for the land of Judah as a polity be a red herring?
> Could it be that we have the references there already, where Jerusalem
> is mentioned?
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Sunday, August 1, 2004, at 02:39 AM, Yigal Levin wrote:
>
> > Naming an area after its main city is not uncommon. Remember that the
> > area
> > to the north of Judah was called "Shomron" (Samaria). The Phoenicians
> > were
> > called "Sidonians". Not to mentions names like "the land of Hamath". In
> > modern Arabic, "balad" is often used for a town and its immediate
> > environs.
> >
> > Yigal
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Costa" <tmcos AT rogers.com>
> > To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:29 AM
> > Subject: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?
> >
> >
> >> I hope this is not too off topic, but I was puzzled to read in Geza
> > Vermes. 'The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English' (New York: Penguin
> > Books,
> > 1997) on p.566 where he translates "A Jeremiah Apocryphon" (4Q384-5B).
> > The
> > beginning line starts off, "...Jeremiah the Prophet [departed] from
> > before
> > the Lord (YHWH)...[to accompany the] the captives who were taken from
> > the
> > land of Jerusalem and came [to...Nebuchadnezzar,] king of Babel..." I am
> > puzzled by the expression "land of Jerusalem". Jerusalem is a city, and
> > always designated as such at least in the MT. I am wondering if anyone
> > has a
> > clue as to why Jerusalem is designated as "land" here? Thanks.
> >>
> >> Tony Costa
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Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?,
RGmyrken, 08/01/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?,
Yigal Levin, 08/01/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?,
Brian Roberts, 08/01/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?, Yigal Levin, 08/02/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?, George Athas, 08/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?,
Tony Costa, 08/01/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?, Yigal Levin, 08/02/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?,
Brian Roberts, 08/01/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?,
Ken Penner, 08/02/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Jerusalem, city or land?, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 08/02/2004
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