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- From: Uri Hurwitz <uhurwitz AT yahoo.com>
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- Subject: [b-hebrew] A Question
- Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:44:10 -0800 (PST)
Excuse me, but does this belong in this list?
Uri
age.Karl Randolph <kwrandolph AT email.com> wrote,intere alia,
To use an 18th century metaphor, the
creation of a watch uses different
principles (laws of physics) than the
operation thereof. The picture that the
Bible gives is that when God created the
universe, he did something different than
what we see going on today. Then after the
creation, God acted into creation only to
communicate with mankind and to make some
actions to advance his goals, in a similar
manner as a watch maker, after he has made
a watch, touches it only to wind the spring
and occasionally to make an adjustment for
more accurate operation. Likewise, Gods
actions into history are rare. Where there
is an alleged action from God into history,
the answer to its veracity will be found
not in science, but in historical analysis.
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From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:07:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL
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Peter:
English pronounces Latin loan words
according to a certain set of rules. Was
Latin at the time of the ceasars spoken
according to the same rules as modern
English rules for the same words? No one
that I know of would make that claim.
By the time of the Masoretes, Hebrew had
not been spoken as a native language for
near a millennium. How do we know that the
Masorete pronunciation, very likely based
on Aramaic or other languages, was the same
as Hebrew was spoken a thousand years
earlier? There is reason to doubt it.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
>
> Understood. But the original discussion was about the history of the
> pronunciation of Hebrew. That cannot be understood apart from
> consideration of other languages.
>
> If we studied English on the assumption that its alphabet was developed
> for English alone, and in isolation from other languages using the same
> alphabet, we would get some very strange results. If we recognise that
> the alphabet is borrowed from Latin, we can understand much better what
> has happened.
>
> --
> Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Peter Kirk, 03/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Polycarp66, 03/15/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/15/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Yigal Levin, 03/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Peter Kirk, 03/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Polycarp66, 03/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/16/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Kevin Riley, 03/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/16/2004
- [b-hebrew] A Question, Uri Hurwitz, 03/16/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Peter Kirk, 03/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Peter Kirk, 03/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Dave Washburn, 03/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Peter Kirk, 03/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Dave Washburn, 03/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Peter Kirk, 03/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Dave Washburn, 03/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Peter Kirk, 03/18/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Peter Kirk, 03/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL, Karl Randolph, 03/18/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proto-Semitic, was WAYYIQTOL,
Karl Randolph, 03/15/2004
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