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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains
- Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:21:41 -0500
Dear Peter:
My intention was never to be an aconoclast. Thus, when I started with the
Gesenius/BDB dictionaries, my notes (which have become a lexicon) started
with noting synonyms, antonyms, special usages and to try to give a tighter,
more ‘native speaker’ understanding of the words. It was only with reluctance
that I later came to contradict BDB, and then only when I understand clear
usage clues for a different definition.
There are too many times I read XSD in a context where I see (often
undeserved) kind actions as volitional acts where there is no obligation to
fulfill.
My concept of ‘loyalty’ often is a volitional action where the only
obligation to fulfill is the obligation to one’s actions he has chosen to do
and to people he has chosen to associate with.
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
>
I think the point here is that you understand XESED quite differently from Reinier. You understand the core meaning as "kindness" (and here you agree with BDB for once!), but Reinier understands the core meaning as more like "loyalty" or "faithfulness", which are one word summaries of his definitions. These notions are not the same, as you seem to suppose, but rather fundamentally contradictory: in English, loyalty is fulfilment of obligations, whereas kindness is doing good things when there is no obligation. Which fits XESED better is not a matter of theology or philosophy but of Hebrew language usage.
--
Peter Kirk
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http://www.qaya.org/
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Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains, Peter Kirk, 11/20/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains, Trevor Peterson, 11/21/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains,
Karl Randolph, 11/21/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains, Peter Kirk, 11/22/2003
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[b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains,
David Gray, 11/24/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains, furuli, 11/24/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains,
CS Bartholomew, 11/26/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains, David Gray, 11/27/2003
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[b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains,
Reinier de Blois, 11/24/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains (WAY off topic), Paul Zellmer, 11/25/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains,
Karl Randolph, 11/25/2003
- [b-hebrew] XESED, was: Contextual Semantic Domains, Peter Kirk, 11/26/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Contextual Semantic Domains, Karl Randolph, 11/27/2003
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