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  • From: "Philip Engmann" <phil-eng AT ighmail.com>
  • To: "'Ben and Jo Crick'" <ben.crick AT argonet.co.uk>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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  • Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] elohim versus aggelous, Psalm 8:6[5] MT versus LXX
  • Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:01:21 +0100

Dear Ben and Jo,

This is good. But does Job 7:17 really say that "God made Man in His
Image, only a "little lower" than Himself?"

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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] elohim versus aggelous, Psalm 8:6[5] MT versus
LXX

Haverim: this is a repost, my third attempt (ISP problems)...

On Fri 26 Sep 2003 (06:26:43), phil-eng AT ighmail.com wrote:
> Why does elohim occur in MT Psalm 8:6[5], whereas aggelous occurs in
> LXX Psalm 8:6[5]?

Dear Phil,

Perhaps the LXX panel of 70 translators felt that making man only a
little
lower than *God* was a bit presumptious, so they substituted "a little
lower
than the angels". 'e:LoHiYM can be applied generally to celestial
beings
rather than to God Himself (1 Samuel 28:13), but angels are more
usually
referred to as "sons of God" (eg Genesis 6:2, Job 38:7) rather than
"gods".

The clear reference to Man as being created in the Image of God
(Genesis
1:26-27) makes the direct comparison with God Himself appropriate. The
RV,
the RSV and the NRSV opt for "God" rather than "angels" or "heavenly
beings".
Man is crowned King of Creation in verse 6[7]; compare Genesis 1:28. No
angel, not even HeY:LaL / Lucifer was given this distinction. Compare
also
Job 7:17. God made Man in His Image, only a "little lower" than
Himself.

HTH

Ben
--
Revd Ben Crick BA CF, and Mrs Joanna (Goodwin) Crick
<ben.crick AT argonet.co.uk>
232 Canterbury Road, Birchington, Kent, CT7 9TD (UK)
http://www.cnetwork.co.uk/crick.htm



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