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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?
- Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 11:55:25 -0500
Thanx Bryan:
I recognized the parallelism, for just as charcoal is fuel for embers, and
wood is fuel for fire, so a judgemental man (or man deserving of judgment) is
fuel for hot arguments (for making arguments hot).
I took a further look at my concordance, and now wonder if the lexical entry
XRR is a legitimate word. It is never used as a chet resh resh in the text,
and if it were not for the vowels, would it be differentiated from XRH? Even
its meaning seams almost identical with XRH. Connecting XRH to this verse
fits as well.
Any thoughts?
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "B. M. Rocine" <brocine AT twcny.rr.com>
> Hi Karl,
>
> It looks indeed like ryb refers to verbal strife. See Exo 21:18 where
> physical assault is named as a seperate and additional condition, thus
> distinguishing physical strife from the verbal brand.
>
> As for lexarxar, it looks like an infinitive to me that is in construct with
> ryb. An infinitive is very noun-like, naming an activity. We often
> represent Hebrew infinitives with English gerunds (-ing-words), which are
> "nounish verbs" in English. So I would say that xarxar refers to an
> inflaming or a kindling, like what charcoal does to embers and wood does to
> a small fire. My version: "Charcoal to embers and wood to fire; so a man
> of contentions to an inflaming of argument."
>
> According to the parallelism in the verse we have noun-lamed-noun,
> noun-lamed-noun and in the third part noun-phrase-lamed-noun phrase. It's a
> nice build-up of the syntax, which complements the semantic build-up from
> charcoal to embers to fire to more fire.
>
> Shalom, Bryan
>
> You wrote:
>
> > To All:
> >
> > In Proverbs 26:21, the second half reads W)Y$ MDWNYM LXRXR RYB
> >
> > Assuming the first part means "argument", what does XRXR mean? It is a
> hapax legomai word. One dictionary claims it is a pilpal verb from XRR. But
> a verbal form does not fit the pattern of the rest of the verse. From the
> pattern, I'm looking for an adjective for RYB. I agree that its root is XRR
> which means "to parch" used in Psalm 69:4 to indicate a throat becoming
> "parched", i.e. hoarse from calling out, so is this heated argument so loud
> and protracted that its participants become hoarse?
> >
> > A proposed translation of the whole verse could read, "Charcoal is to
> embers and wood is to fire as a judgmental man is to protracted arguments
> (lit. hoarse arguments)".
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
>
>
> B. M. Rocine
> Living Word Church
> 6101 Court St. Rd.
> Syracuse, NY 13206
>
> ph: 315.437.6744
> fx: 315.437.6766
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[b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?,
Karl Randolph, 09/26/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?, B. M. Rocine, 09/26/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?, Karl Randolph, 09/26/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?,
Karl Randolph, 09/27/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?, B. M. Rocine, 09/27/2003
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Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?,
Karl Randolph, 09/29/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Proverbs 26:21 hoarse?, Peter Kirk, 09/30/2003
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