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[b-hebrew] Jeremiah 8:8 - the pen of the scribes

From: Schmuel <schmuel AT escape.com>
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Subject: [b-hebrew] Jeremiah 8:8 - the pen of the scribes
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:23:09 -0400

Shalom b-hebrew,

Jeremiah 8:8 (KJB)
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?
Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.

JPS-1985
Assuredly, for naught has the pen labored, For naught the scribes !

NAS
How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made {it} into a lie.

The NAS (and many modern Christian versions) meaning is much different than
the KJB or JPS.
In one case the pen of the scribes actively lies/deceives, in the other it is
in vain, or for naught.

Comments on the underlying Hebrew, including ... shehker, and the full
constructions ?

Thanks :-)

Shalom,
Steven Avery
Queens, NY

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[b-hebrew] Prov 13:23, Jim West, 05/12/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Prov 13:23, Peter Kirk, 05/12/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Prov 13:23, B. M. Rocine, 05/12/2003
- [b-hebrew] Jeremiah 8:8 - the pen of the scribes, Schmuel, 05/13/2003
  - Re: [b-hebrew] Jeremiah 8:8 - the pen of the scribes, B. M. Rocine, 05/14/2003